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Munqui

LilacLillie wrote: »

I'm having trouble with wombles and barcode generator.
Is anyone still up that could help please?
I understood that if you find a womble put the barcode in you could then scan the barcode for shopitize?
However, each time I put a barcode in it adds an additional number at the end and doesn't scan
Am I doing it completely wrong? Can someone with more knowhow explain in very simple terms for me please.
I must have missed out on a dozen lettuce this week for starters.
Just tried strawbs from sada again with no luck
LL

Hi LL :wave:

The extra digit it is adding is the 'check digit' and is correct (this digit is not actually in the barcode stripes but can be used to verify the other digits have been manually entered correctly).

If the BC on the Asda receipt has lots of zeros at the beginning then it's an EAN8 barcode (rather than the usual EAN13)


For example, I have a receipt with

MILK 000002034145
VODKA 501029600001

using http://www.terryburton.co.uk/barcodewriter/generator/

Choose EAN-8 and putting in 7 digits from the milk 2034145 (the 8th will be calculated by the above website) gives this...


Choose EAN-13 and putting in 12 digits from vodka 501029600001 (13th is generated by website) gives this...



Scanning in msm shows me 4pt skimmed milk and selekt vodka :T a white russian ? :think: :beer:

Hope that helps :cool:

Savvybuyer

There's an "00800" number to ring, on the coupons, if I'm having trouble using them (which, this time, I am!). Daft question - is an 00800 number free (from landline)? 0800 is free but 00800?

Things change tomorrow (in other words in under half an hour's time) - in order to make things "simple", they're making the system far more confusing and more complicated than it ever was before. 0800 apparently to be free from mobiles (I may be wrong on anything in this post as this just my recollection) but 0845, which is within my inclusive calls (but not 0345), is now apparently going to be an access charge from the network operator then a service charge from whoever you are ringing. (Told you it was more complicated.) Only the access charge part is within the inclusive. Thus, in my mind, the call is no longer inclusive at all (paying xp per minute, who knows however much, to the person you're ringing). They may eventually change things so that the service charge is within the inclusive call payments. Which I have to ensure that people do not run up a bill.

So, it's back to me refusing to ring anything other than a geographic number now. I tentatively included ringing 0845 when I 'discovered' they (but not 0345) were included in my inclusive and therefore were 'free' (i.e. no extra as I've paid for it already) but now the service charge...!:eek::eek: I cannot be sure on any number now except only geographic numbers. Not even 00800:rotfl:.

Previously I was fine - it's this new "simplified" thing that they've done, claiming that it reduces confusion, that confuses me.

EDIT: "UK Calling" it is called. Designed to make the cost of calling "clearer". According to them. Clear as absolute mud. The service charge, apparently, is supposed to be stated by whoever you are calling - but I have no confidence whatsoever that they will do so or how I will find out, in advance, what the cost of calling will be. Previously I knew and it was entirely clear - it was 0845 and included in my inclusives therefore cost nothing. Now, I have no idea and it is totally UNclear!:p Therefore the only thing I can do is no longer ring any 0845 number as I cannot now be sure and do not know what they will cost me. I'm in a total loss to understand what the call cost will be and in a state of being in complete unclearness on the matter!

scottishshortie

henrik777 wrote: »

Dunfermline, Glenrothes and Leven.

Govan was on the radar. Thanks.

Need to try Dundee, Bathgate, Westerhailes and Rutherglen

Walkers in Dundee saw 2 boxes today

Munqui

LilacLillie wrote: »

Munqui.................what's the check digit please?
LL

It's basically an extra digit that can be used to verify the other digits are correct.

There's loads of info on wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Article_Number_(EAN)#Calculation_of_checksum_digit

LilacLillie

Munqui wrote: »

Hi LL :wave:

The extra digit it is adding is the 'check digit' and is correct (this digit is not actually in the barcode stripes but can be used to verify the other digits have been manually entered correctly).

If the BC on the Asda receipt has lots of zeros at the beginning then it's an EAN8 barcode (rather than the usual EAN13)


For example, I have a receipt with

MILK 000002034145
VODKA 501029600001

using http://www.terryburton.co.uk/barcodewriter/generator/

Choose EAN-8 and putting in 7 digits from the milk 2034145 (the 8th will be calculated by the above website) gives this...


Choose EAN-13 and putting in 12 digits from vodka 501029600001 (13th is generated by website) gives this...



Scanning in msm shows me 4pt skimmed milk and selekt vodka :T a white russian ? :think: :beer:

Hope that helps :cool:

Have just tried the 8 and 13, still no luck

The barcode is: 505244989466 12 digits but the generator keeps adding 0 to the end???????
LL

Savvybuyer

Here's part of O2's "clear" explanation (that I just happen to have stumbled upon in searching for 1 July phone charge changes, they aren't my own telephone operator):

http://www.o2.co.uk/help/everything-...phical-numbers
"...The service charge - this is the rest of the call charge. The organisation you’re calling decides the service charge, and must communicate it. For example, if the service charge was 20p per minute, the organisation you’re calling might [my emphasis] say 'Calls cost 20p per minute, plus your phone company’s access charge'."

Or they might not. Therefore, totally unclear.

"Must" communicate. But what if they don't? Who enforces it?
Even when call costs are required to be stated on, for example, premium rate calls, the service providers have not always provided accurate call costs and, indeed, on numerous occasions, ICSTIS (now Phonepay Plus) acted informally to ask for amendments to be made - this is a whole industry that, sometimes, does not specify accurate costs. Mistakes happen on occasion - and many minor 'technical' breaches of Codes happen, that are resolved informally. Don't let me confuse you - this is not about O2 but instead is totally separate thing about the service providers of the actual lines (the 'people you're ringing') - numerous of whom operate and, on occasion, lots of them make mistakes - thus numerous technically inaccurate call cost messages in promotional material from time to time.

I can't be sure it will be accurate. It won't be free (not inclusive yet). I am therefore in no alternative but to impose my own blanket ban on ringing any 0845 numbers anymore until such a point as they become included with inclusive packages and I am assured that they will be fully covered on every occasion.

Perhaps :rotfl::rotfl: this is now all shutting the door after the horse and really I ought to have commented, to Ofcom, at the time they were consulting on all of this rather than now posting here about things only on its implementation.

Munqui

LilacLillie wrote: »

Have just tried the 8 and 13, still no luck

The barcode is: 505244989466 12 digits but the generator keeps adding 0 to the end???????
LL

The extra 0 is correct..... scanning with msm shows 700g asda strawberries.

Is the cashback for 400g strawberries, that might be the problem ?

this is the bc from your numbers..

Savvybuyer

O2 again:

"By adding together the access charge and the service charge, you’ll know exactly what the call will cost you."
http://www.o2.co.uk/help/everything-else/changes-to-non-geographical-numbers

No I won't:p. I do not know, in advance, exactly how long a call I am making is going to last (especially to an organisation, i.e. the very 'people' that are likely to use 0845 numbers) before I finish the call. As call costs are expressed in the form of "per minute", I do not know the total cost I will be charged before I have completed the call (let alone in advance of making it). It requires me to be prophetic about how long some line might place me on hold and to foresee exactly how long the call is going to last before I ring.

Previously, with my inclusive calls, I knew that 0845 would always have been no extra charge (as included in my inclusives). Now there is a service charge, which isn't yet within the inclusive, I no longer have any idea. So, it's not clear at all!

Anyway, I'm not up for paying any cost at all per minute when previously it would have been "free" (as paid for in my inclusives). Therefore, I will now only ring geographic numbers (plus 0800 Freefone) as they are still (under my call plan) fully inclusive whereas 0845, with this new service charge, no longer are. Networks may include service charges within inclusive calls in due course. However, in the interim, they are not included and therefore my total ban (for me)!

Anyway...hope this now saves someone money. DO NOT RING 0845 FROM NOW ON UNLESS YOU ARE AWARE OF THE SERVICE CHARGE THAT YOU WILL PAY.

LilacLillie

Munqui wrote: »

The extra 0 is correct..... scanning with msm shows 700g asda strawberries.

Is the cashback for 400g strawberries, that might be the problem ?

this is the bc from your numbers..

Im such a donka! My excuse is its late and I am sooo tired

Thank you so much for helping a numnut.
Off to bed
LL


ooppsss................no it is for 700gms @£2.50. Shopitize is as you say 400gms. Still bedtime, night.

Munqui

LilacLillie wrote: »

Im such a donka! My excuse is its late and I am sooo tired

Thank you so much for helping a numnut.
Off to bed
LL

Night LL :wave: