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TV Licensing

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  • jnd
    jnd Posts: 453 Forumite
    Does anyone actually know exactly what a retailer tells tv licensing other than you've bought a tv? Do they give them the make, model and serial number as well?
  • Lakeuk
    Lakeuk Posts: 1,084 Forumite
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    jnd wrote: »
    Does anyone actually know exactly what a retailer tells tv licensing other than you've bought a tv? Do they give them the make, model and serial number as well?

    I expect just the name and address will be given
  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    Clearly from all the info I have got, there is no need to be paying this "tax".

    - They dont have any reliable source of detection
    - They have no right of entry without a warrant
    - They cannot escalate without collecting further evidence, which they dont really have a way of doing unless your television is visible from the window. Even then it may not be on BBC, so they might not be able to justify a warrant.

    Another person who thinks a TV licence is required if you only watch BBC channels?
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  • They tell them everyting. i bought a new tv from woolworths but the tv license is in my wifes name. got a letter a month later saying i needed a license, even told me what shop i had bought my tv from.

    this applies (or should do) to all tv equipment dvd players etc.

    Last time i bought one i filled the form in as donald duck. not because i dont have a license but because im sick of the threating letters from tv licensing.
  • Regardless of whether you are or are not operating a TV (licensed or not) an employee of Capita PLC (that is a TV licence "inspector" ) can not enter your premises without your permission. If you refuse then they have to present reasonable evidence to a magistrate or sheriff that they suspect a crime is being committed. Then they will be granted a warrant which would allow entry.

    The Freedom of Information Act will provide the definitive answer as to how often that remedy has been used.

    You will find that "self admission" is the method that is used to gain convictions by the TVL authority.

    TIP: If a TV Licence "Inspector" i.e. Capita PLC Sales Person should knock at your door - tell them "No Code 8 here" - they'll turn away, as they know they ain't gettin no code 8 fee. Tell them nothing - let them make their own choice.

    Simple.

    If you feel the TVL is value - then pay for it, if you don't - then pay for an alternative. Do not allow yourself to be treated as a criminal to make a commission for someone who really doesn't care about you.
  • valiant
    valiant Posts: 114 Forumite
    Feux_Verts wrote: »
    The Freedom of Information Act will provide the definitive answer as to how often that remedy has been used.

    All the reports that I've seen of enquires to the BBC under the terms of the FIA yielded nothing. They simply exercised their rights under the act not to divulge such information.
    Feux_Verts wrote: »
    TIP: If a TV Licence "Inspector" i.e. Capita PLC Sales Person should knock at your door - tell them "No Code 8 here" - they'll turn away, as they know they ain't gettin no code 8 fee. Tell them nothing - let them make their own choice.

    That's a new one! Not even Google turned up any hits for 'Code 8' and 'TVL/Capita'. What exactly is Code 8?

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  • moonrakerz
    moonrakerz Posts: 8,650 Forumite
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    valiant wrote: »
    To my mind, that statement, by itself, casts doubt on the reliability of the National Audit Office; which is a real concern. This is an organisation that we rely on to provide independent audits of the financial statements of state and semi-state bodies.

    Totally agree here. Of course the fault lies not so much with the NAO but the terms of reference which they are given to work under.

    The report in question has three main sections:-

    1. Introduction
    2. Knowing the evaders
    3. Reducing further the level of evasion

    When the report is titled, "Collecting the television licence fee", it is pretty obvious that the content of the report is not an accurate representation of what the title seems to imply.
    A more honest title might have been "How to reduce TV Licence evasion".

    I would hazard a guess that these three headings were what the NAO were told work under and that these headings were dictated to them by the Government, who in turn got them from the BBC !
  • higgs
    higgs Posts: 15 Forumite
    I live in a house with absolutely no terrestrial TV reception at all - completely unwatchable. So we have to have sattelite if we want to watch TV.

    Do I then have to pay the license fee for a service that the BBC are unable to provide??

    Yes we get BBc on SKY, but we pay for that already!
  • Alfie_E
    Alfie_E Posts: 1,293 Forumite
    higgs wrote: »
    Do I then have to pay the license fee for a service that the BBC are unable to provide??
    Yes. It’s a license to give you permission to use television receiving equipment. It doesn’t matter if that’s normal terrestrial TV or satellite. A license is even needed to receive data over the Internet using a computer, where that data represents “live” TV.
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  • superscaper
    superscaper Posts: 13,369 Forumite
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    higgs wrote: »
    I live in a house with absolutely no terrestrial TV reception at all - completely unwatchable. So we have to have sattelite if we want to watch TV.

    Do I then have to pay the license fee for a service that the BBC are unable to provide??

    Yes we get BBc on SKY, but we pay for that already!

    As far as I know you need a licence as it isn't restricted to purely terrestrial broadcasts. Even live uk broadcasts over the internet require a tv licence so I don't think getting it through a satellite dish is going to be exempt.
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