How will the economy be affected by SNP MPs; will it be for richer or for poorer and

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wotsthat wrote: »

Of course that's the case but it's important to have the word economy in the thread title so it stays on this board because the main protagonists don't want to argue about the SNP on discussion time and they'll miss each other.

Yup! You have it exactly right, well almost right since I do think there are economic issues.

antrobus

wotsthat wrote: »

Of course that's the case but it's important to have the word economy in the thread title so it stays on this board because the main protagonists don't want to argue about the SNP on discussion time and they'll miss each other.

Yup, I worked that one out.:)

So I thought I'd be helpful and mention both the economy and house prices.

kabayiri

The presence of a potentially rebellious group like the SNP might prove useful, in that it might help bind the government together.

The Tories need to stay tight to carry out the austerity policy which the UK voters voted for.

The UK economy will benefit from a period of stability.

.string.

Nicola Sturgeon attacks Westminster spending cuts

So the SNP Project Whinge is in full spate: all problems are ther fault of "Westminster".

What she said basically was "Democratic Will of the Scottish people, no austerity in Scotland, let's spend & borrow more, Democratic Will of the Scottish People, Me, Me, Me is our policy"

Well it remains to see if it is the Democratic Will of the Elected Representatives of all of the British people.

No-one wants austerity. No - the wicked Torys do not day-dream all day about how they can inflict pain on the poor and disadvantaged, nor specially on the Scots. That's just an infantile slogan dreamed up to stir up resentment and further the SNP's single minded separatism.

As someone who is glad we have a Government that has a good chance of actually Governing this Country, I expect them to get us out of this mess in a way which is as painless as possible for everyone; I would rather the recovery was quick but don't mind a small delay but not if it means following some mickey mouse policy of pursuing the very problems which exacerbated the problem (overspend > more borrowing > more interest payments, bigger deficit).

If the Commons vote in a certain way and the SNP vote is included in the decision one way or the other then that is Democracy, pandering to one party claiming grandiose super-exemption from the problems that we should all face is not however.

IveSeenTheLight

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Am I complaining?

I thought I was merely pointing out how ridiculous these media stories are. Don't they have more pressing matters to report on than someone eating chips?

But if you enjoy this kind of story then fair play to you.

It seems a non SNP MP has shone doubt on the media



Be careful what you read in the papers, I've said that before

CLAPTON

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

It seems a non SNP MP has shone doubt on the media



Be careful what you read in the papers, I've said that before

SNP are in good company with Di as a friend.

total hypocrite that condemns private education for other people but sent her own child to private school : a bit like the SNP commending right to buy although their own MPs have done just that.

antrobus

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

It seems a non SNP MP has shone doubt on the media...

Be careful what you read in the papers, I've said that before

But everything you read on Twitter is true.:rotfl:

Shakethedisease

antrobus wrote: »

But everything you read on Twitter is true.:rotfl:

One thing about Twitter if it isn't true, then it's soon outed as such.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

How will the economy be affected by SNP MPs; will it be for richer or for poorer and for whom?

Which economy ?

NEW powers for Holyrood proposed by the Smith Commission risk forcing Scotland into a "self-perpetuating cycle of economic decline" which could leave the country in a worse position that Greece, according to respected academics...

The report concludes: "Any Scottish Government will actually be severely constrained in its freedom of action - and will also have to spend a lot of its policy effort acting in a reactive, rather than pro-active, mode. The constraints arise because, in practice, it will not be able to change rates of income tax in Scotland too much from those in the rest of the UK: because it is being handed a single tool to manage multiple problems: and because it has limited economic powers to attempt to grow the economy and the tax base.


"The perversity of the way the Smith reforms are being implemented means that Scotland could well find itself in a position rather like Greece - locked into a cycle of relative decline within a malfunctioning monetary union. Indeed, in certain important respects, Scotland's position would be worse than that of Greece. Scotland is a resource rich country, but barred from controlling or accessing much of its own resources, and Scotland does not have anything like the range of economic and taxation powers possessed by Greece."

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/economists-warn-that-smith-proposals-would-leave-scotland-in-worse-positi.127078065

So Scotland will be like Greece if it goes independent (as some keep saying ), AND if it takes Smith as is within the Union. Decisions, decisions.... :cool:

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Shakethedisease wrote: »

Which economy ?

So Scotland will be like Greece if it goes independent (as some keep saying ), AND if it takes Smith as is within the Union. Decisions, decisions....

Exactly - which economy? Will the UK economy recover or is it about to be submerged by Sturgeonomics.

She will find out tomorrow what is actually in the Queen's Speech. Maybe people will wonder what her fuss was all about.

I look forward to your detailed analysis.

The article you copied is so difficult to understand. After all the SNP signed up to the Smith Agreement with the others did they not? So naturally they think it is ok for Scotland or maybe they withdrew their agreement on Twitter afterwards. Anyway it can hardly that bad or the SNP woudl have said so at the time.

But that aside, comparison to Greece is a bit over the top. From what I have read there is to be a large increase in powers in Scotland, enough for the SNP to prove themselves either capable or incapable of additional responsibility.

We (and Sturgeon come to that) will find out more tomorrow; she's leading the gun a bit don't you think? It's like judging a book by the cover where you draw the cover artwork yourself.