YES or NO - The Big Vote

SailorSam

Even those who were campaigning against same sex marriage have come out with statements to say the vote has gone against them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32856232

Old_Git

so its Ireland says yes, but Ulster still says no .

No real change then .

qwert_yuiop

Old_Git wrote: »

so its Ireland says yes, but Ulster still says no .

No real change then .

We don't know that. No one asked us, nor are they likely to.

I'd say it's only a matter of time till the regulations are regulated here ( if somewhat irregularly).

fivebobeach

S'pose that means Dublin will be full of folk trying different rings out all night now...

chunter

Yip. Northern Ireland is still full of people who, if they weren't in Stormont, would be out burning witches.

Old_Git

chunter wrote: »

Yip. Northern Ireland is still full of people who, if they weren't in Stormont, would be out burning witches.

But not on a Sunday :rotfl::rotfl:

qwert_yuiop

chunter wrote: »

Yip. Northern Ireland is still full of people who, if they weren't in Stormont, would be out burning witches.

Some have indeed been involved in burning people.

Didn't stop them getting elected.

warmhands.coldheart

RikM wrote: »

....Either it's the same, or it's different. ..?

It's always going to be different in that the "Church" (whatever faith type) is not obliged to carry out the "marriage" in any way as they are a religious group so can "discriminate" in that way......
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for equality, I just don't think it's always completely clear what it is exactly people want.
So we're now in a position where LGBT people can be legally married, BUT the "Church" does not have to marry them or allow them to marry on their premises so is that really "Equality" ?

other technical points.
In Marriage, one of the grounds for Divorce is "Adultery" where the divorce petitioner finds it intolerable to livewith their spouse. The definition of adultery in the law is sexual intercourse with someone of theopposite sex outside of marriage.

So on the grounds of Equality, how would that work with a gay couple??? this will all be ironed out no doubt by layers and the legal system but I'm just making the point.
There's Equality and there's Equality !!!

warmhands.coldheart

Don't you just love a sense of humour
First Gay Marriage in Ireland !! Loving it !!!

qwert_yuiop

warmhands.coldheart wrote: »

It's always going to be different in that the "Church" (whatever faith type) is not obliged to carry out the "marriage" in any way as they are a religious group so can "discriminate" in that way......
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for equality, I just don't think it's always completely clear what it is exactly people want.
So we're now in a position where LGBT people can be legally married, BUT the "Church" does not have to marry them or allow them to marry on their premises so is that really "Equality" ?

other technical points.
In Marriage, one of the grounds for Divorce is "Adultery" where the divorce petitioner finds it intolerable to livewith their spouse. The definition of adultery in the law is sexual intercourse with someone of theopposite sex outside of marriage.

So on the grounds of Equality, how would that work with a gay couple??? this will all be ironed out no doubt by layers and the legal system but I'm just making the point.
There's Equality and there's Equality !!!

This is where we find out how things have not been thought through.

It used to be that a wife had no claim on farm assets. This was changed (by CJ Haughey) in the 80s. Now the problem is a girl can demand a farm be sold, and get a half share, after a 2 year failed marriage. Not surprisingly, the Irish farmers' association has been campaigning for premarital agreements.

No doubt similar problems will now emerge.