Sanctions' figures

FBaby

in reality, they didn't have a clue what to do with me and only saw me twice.

But if I recall properly, you deteriorated during that period, hence ending up in the Support group, so it's not that surprising they didn't know what to do with you.

The problem with the WRAG group is that there is little they can. I believe that people on it do NOT have to attend meetings, and many don't, and still do nothing on their own to try to ease themselves back into employment.

seven-day-weekend

Londonsu wrote: »

Bloke next door has been sanctioned because where we live the first local bus doesn't leave early enough to get into the centre of town in time for onward buses to get people to work at 9am so he refuses to apply for jobs that mean he has to walk 15 minutes for a more regular service.


Sounds awful doesn't it, no buses not his fault, nasty evil Tories, except that age 60 I do that walk EVERY morning, my 66 year old Husband with mobility problems and 1/2 blind with a cataract does it 3/4 times a week, yet a fit healthy 20 something refuses to do it. BTW Yes I DO know he is fit and healthy seeing as him and his mates are playing cricket in the street outside as I am typing this.

No. It doesn't sound awful to have to walk fifteen minutes for a bus, if he is fit and healthy. If he refuses to do so, so that he can be more available for work, then I think he deserves the sanction.

merlin68

I might get hb and cts but that goes straight to council its not cash in my pocket to spend.
My friend waited 2 years for his medical for esa.
Long time to be on assessment rate.

tea-bag

merlin68 wrote: »

I might get hb and cts but that goes straight to council its not cash in my pocket to spend.
My friend waited 2 years for his medical for esa.
Long time to be on assessment rate.

However it is additional money somebody who is working would have to pay leaving less disposable income than yourself.

tea-bag

nannytone wrote: »

the vast majority if claims that i helped with were deserved and more than met the criteria.
it was because of the small amount of others that i left,
so get your facts straight. i did not 'conspire' with anyone and a few times asked a colleague to complete forms if they wished, because i was not happy to do so

My wife is a teacher (head of year) in a secondary school most of the kids come from single parent / deprived backgrounds. She gets 2 or 3 forms a week to sign for people trying to claim disability for their kids, she now refuses to sign them and gets abusive phone calls for it. Most of the time the kids are out of control but the parents want the LABEL and the CASH!

missbiggles1

merlin68 wrote: »

I might get hb and cts but that goes straight to council its not cash in my pocket to spend.
My friend waited 2 years for his medical for esa.
Long time to be on assessment rate.

It's part of your income - it's really annoying when claimants don't count the money they receive for housing!

Podge52

missbiggles1 wrote: »

It's part of your income - it's really annoying when claimants don't count the money they receive for housing!

Why does it annoy you?

missbiggles1

Podge52 wrote: »

Why does it annoy you?

I tend to find stupidity annoying - don't you?

billywilly

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

I knew someone with equally bad MH problems, in fact to a degree his i'd say were worse than mine (we were under the same psychitrist), yet he was found fit for work and had to go to tribunal, yet i was in the support group each time. So i think that people can fall through the cracks. Its by no means a perfect system.

That isn't the case normally. It is down to how the claimant fills in the ESA50, how good the evidence is in support of it and how they are able to express their problems at a face to face meeting. In other words, claimants quite regularly fail themselves.

billywilly

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Most people get LHA/HB/SMI on top of the benefits you mention, although perhaps you don't.

Surely the assessment rate is only payable for a short period and then higher rate kicks in?

Yes people conveniently forget to add ALL of the benefits together and treat the total as net income after tax & NIC and all work expenses (travel, lunches, clothes etc) as if they had to work for a living.