noise

catoutthebag

sniggings wrote: »

I didn't think you are being OTT, I live in a flat and wouldn't dream of playing music at any time of day.

People seem to throw out the line "well you should expect it when living in flats", when they should be saying "sorry if the sound travels outside your flat it's to loud".

1 am on a month basis is to much, yes accept the odd party but not monthly.

I would also ask him to pre-warn you of parties, you won't find it so bad if you are prepare for it,nothing worse than going to bed at the last min, to be waken up, cos idiot next door is dancing again.

although you're sticking up for me, I think your expectations are maybe a little more extreme than mine. I think once a month would be occasional. Not sure what twice a month constitutes. ..2/30...so 7%....still low I guess in that way. As I say if I have to wear plugs twice a month. ..I can tolerate it. As long as I know so that I'm not woken up to put them in.

There's no set day...This time it was Saturday and 2 weeks ago it was Friday.

catoutthebag

cluelessoncanvey wrote: »

Good luck. Looked in this thread because I'm looking to move into my first place myself. Viewed a flat today, met the neighbour from the flat above, ever so nice, said it's quiet and neighbours are nice, he also said they were quiet but told me that had a four year old, and I am wondering how quiet can it realistically be with a four year old. Thinking about putting in a bid, but don't want to be woken up early in the morning because the four year old has got up (its a converted house so if she's loud I'd hear it).

check wall thickness. You will hear noise with a 4 year old. Check how often you'll be in same building. Weigh up pros and cons and price

catoutthebag

So he's started some noise while I'm in the bedroom which I think neighbours his lounge.

It's at same level as Saturday night....ie blurred but distinctly audible if not muffled. Not as bad as 2 weeks ago.

Do I have a low patience threshold?

I know it won't go for hours. Just his weekend daytime thing he occasionally does.

Moving into my lounge next to my bedroom I can barely hear anything. Basically it's fine. I shouldn't have to put my music on or earphones in or move room.

It is daytime...but it's bank holiday so other residents are around.

I currently don't have other noise in my flat apart from my washer.

catoutthebag

Wow. Stopped. Short lived.

comeandgo

Thank goodness I don't stay next to you. Can a person not play some music on a lunch time Bank holiday Monday? I would say you do have a low tolerance. Why on earth did you move into a flat.

Pixie5740

Having a bedroom sharing a wall with a someone else's living room wasn't a very well thought out idea by whoever designed the place.

However, your neighbour at least seems to have taken on some of what you've said and has reduced the volume.

One poster suggested that people are more thoughtless these days and that's why there are more noise issues. There might be some truth in that. Televisions and speakers are much more powerful that they used to be and I think some people are just genuinely ignorant about the effect is has on the people living around them.

Flats and houses being carved into smaller properties so that 2 flats become 4 etc also doesn't help as some of the conversions are very poor quality. That and the popularity of bloody laminate flooring.

catoutthebag

comeandgo wrote: »

Thank goodness I don't stay next to you. Can a person not play some music on a lunch time Bank holiday Monday? I would say you do have a low tolerance. Why on earth did you move into a flat.

You need to get your reasonings and arguments in order by first reading what I have and have not said.

I have never objected to anyone playing music.

I have never even brought this up the neighbours.

FACTS

This is about SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE levels of noise.

As previously alluded to by numerous other posters, if I can hear their music it IS too loud.

Hope you've understood the crux of this.

This is a SHARED building with everyone having equal rights to it and silence within their confined space, no matter who paid what or who has lived there longer.

Socially acceptable levels of noise. Those that don't impede or cause nuisance.

Red-Squirrel_2

I would gently suggest that you might be better off trying not to think about it quite so much. It doesn't seem like its going to be a big problem, and constantly monitoring sound levels and being hyper aware of every sound is only going to make it loom larger in your mind than it needs to.

You'll get used to it, soon you won't even notice the low level stuff, I promise!

ManuelG

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

I would gently suggest that you might be better off trying not to think about it quite so much. It doesn't seem like its going to be a big problem, and constantly monitoring sound levels and being hyper aware of every sound is only going to make it loom larger in your mind than it needs to.

You'll get used to it, soon you won't even notice the low level stuff, I promise!

Yup. FWIW I think I have a low tolerance to noise, but in flats I've lived in, I've spent too much nervous energy worrying about how long something will go on for or if it'll start up, rather than just living my life.

So I can empathise with the OP, but if it's a small amount of noise that can't be heard in certain rooms, then that's rather different to late night partying.

I know it's easier said than done to just ignore it if you're sensitive to such things, and I know it might sound trite but maybe just detaching yourself from measuring how long it goes on for by going for a walk or something might start to break the pattern you threaten to end up in, where you worry about every footstep maybe leading to something else.

-taff

If your covenant says no noise between 11 and 7 then you can go and ask him to turn it down, or make a complaint to the management company.

Unfortunately, the price of living in flats is that unless they're super sound insulated, you will hear almost everything above a certain threshold. I used to hear my neighbour using his toilet, flushing it, walking on the floor, his kid running round, his DIY madness etc etc.

If you're constantly going to be worried about hearing noise, about assuming when it might or might not occur, I agree with some of the other posters, flat life is not for you.