noise

catoutthebag

So thought I'd update.

2 weeks ago I was greeted, on the second night of my new place of dwelling, with loud thumping music at past midnight by a neighbour.


A few days after, as mentioned, he did say he had friends around 'some weekends not every weekend and if noise was too loud let me know and I'll turn it down'. I hadn't brought anything up he just came out with it. And that his 2 young sounds come round some weekends.

I had a quick scan of the management company booklet which is not the same as the lease, but it said usually music should not be heard outside thr flat between 11 pm and 7 am but that the occasional party would not constitute a nuisance.

It's been fine since.

I brought bio ear plugs too incase.

So yesterday, 2 weeks after, heard music at 1 am which woke me up. Not as loud as last night. I swiftly got my ear plugs in, had trouble getting back to sleep, woke at 6 am but then drifted off again.

So not so bad. And seems it's every 2 weeks. Which is ok I guess, but still a little annoying.

Am I being over the top petty here? Just something I have to prepare for and accept?

Guess it's not every week end (at the moment) or weekdays and he's been acknowledging (even though I shouldn't have to tell him)

Just seems a 40 plus year old listening to music for half his age trying to relive his youth.

System

To be honest I think you are being a bit over the top. It happened once and you started worrying about it happening every night. It's happened again two weeks later and you've concluded that it's going to happen once every fortnight. There's really no reason yet to think that - twice isn't an ongoing trend. You said the music was lower this time, so maybe your neighbour took your earlier comments into account and tried to keep it down.

He's said he's happy to be approached about it, so talk to him if it's really bothering you. Personally I'd be alright with a bit of noise on a Saturday night, as long as it wasn't going on all night and wasn't too loud, but those things are totally subjective - it's whatever you can take.

ETA: It's a bit offensive to judge someone on the basis of their music tastes and age. My FIL listens to music aimed at people in their twenties. Nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong with me listening to music released before I was born.

AnnieO1234

I didn't see this thread originally, all I can say is that you have to give some leeway, but your neighbour also has to. The bottom line is whether through choice or circumstance, you're all living in a block of flats. There will be noise, and you must all work to ensure that you don't rub each other up the wrong way. That may mean that if you've got something especially important (driving long distance one Saturday morning early) that you're able to tell your neighbour and ask them that Friday night to finish early or not have their music on at all. At the same time you too must give some grace to your neighbour to allow them to live their life in a reasonable manner. A gathering once a fortnight doesn't really constitute a nuisance imho, and if you are the type of person who really suffers at the proximity of living near others then a flat really is not for you and you perhaps should look to rent it out and move somewhere else. Quality of life is most important and if that means you move to another area of the country where you could afford a detached home then that may be the answer. xxx

catoutthebag

Thanks

Just to add a couple points to the posts above. I like the area so I'm not moving especially as I've been there 2 weeks! ! Secondly I'm not allowed to rent it out and don't want to!! And this isn't going to cause me to move to a whole new area of the country! ! Also ive made no 'comments' about the noise - as said above, he mentioned them out the blue. I guess he turned it a little lower this time when he realised or assumed I was in rather than last time when he assumed I wasn't. phew.

Ok my judging of his music tastes were out of frustration.

I think it will be twice a month since his kids are over every other week (so far) and he'll have a party a weekend night in between.

I guess it's been acceptable so far but I'm keeping a mental note so far.

Broadwood

Just to put things in perspective, even living in a detached house or bungalow is no guarantee of peace and quiet. Barking dogs in the summer when the windows aren't tightly shut can be a problem for me as I'm a light sleeper. Driving for a living means getting enough sleep is vital.

It really is the luck of the draw once you have moved in somewhere, as your neighbours will gradually change over time and with the changes, noise nuisance can get better or worse without warning. Unless of course you live out in the sticks and miles from your nearest neighbour. But then that scenario comes with totally different problems.

Good luck OP.

Landofwood

One of the downsides of living in a block of flats I'm afraid. Everyone has a right to peace, but the reality is you will be regularly disturbed.

I'm sure you'll get used to it.

Alternatively, you could always join him for one of his parties, you might end up meeting someone which could solve this https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5243109 problem.

2 birds 1 stone?

cluelessoncanvey

Good luck. Looked in this thread because I'm looking to move into my first place myself. Viewed a flat today, met the neighbour from the flat above, ever so nice, said it's quiet and neighbours are nice, he also said they were quiet but told me that had a four year old, and I am wondering how quiet can it realistically be with a four year old. Thinking about putting in a bid, but don't want to be woken up early in the morning because the four year old has got up (its a converted house so if she's loud I'd hear it).

sniggings

I didn't think you are being OTT, I live in a flat and wouldn't dream of playing music at any time of day.

People seem to throw out the line "well you should expect it when living in flats", when they should be saying "sorry if the sound travels outside your flat it's to loud".

1 am on a month basis is to much, yes accept the odd party but not monthly.

I would also ask him to pre-warn you of parties, you won't find it so bad if you are prepare for it,nothing worse than going to bed at the last min, to be waken up, cos idiot next door is dancing again.

Lioness_Twinkletoes

I think noise nuisance is a sign of the times. People can be uncaring and thoughtless. Others can be super sensitive.

I live in a terraced house and have a dreadful problem with kids playing out the front. There are around 10 of them and the noise they make is incredible. Screeching, shouting, swearing. My living room is at the back and even with doors and windows tightly shut I can hear them clearly.

The majority of them live round the other side of the street and so they're not disturbing their own families. They are often out until gone 10 and with our bedroom being at the front this is going to be problematic.

We also have issues with other neighbours making loads of noise seeing guests off at 2/3/4 am and another neighbour fancies herself as a DJ and plays seriously loud music from 1am - 3am.

Added to this cars coming and going, blasting music and revving engines, dogs barking, doors slamming, young people cutting through the street drunk and raucous...

I love winter. Keeps all the selfish, thoughtless b'stards in their houses.

catoutthebag

Thanks for the comments.

Occasionally in thr day like on a Sunday I'll hear a barely audible music coming from his flat. Not a problem. I don't understand why mr. dad in his 40s need to turn the dial up just because of guests?

To be honest it could be worse

- could be every weekend
- could be across whole weekend
- could be weekdays
- could be someone less receptive or acknowledging of an issue
- could have him move out and someone worse move in
- no pet noise
- my other neighbour is quiet as a mouse so at least not both

...right? !

If the plugs had not worked on Saturday, I would have told him yesterday.

As people say, 21st century problem.

My parents live in a detached house. No noise. But definitely stressful issues from the neighbouring semi detached neighbours over years.