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j.e.j.

Mandelbrot wrote: »

So what happened on threads like the 'Picture' thread in the Arms (and many others)? Popular uncontroversial threads. A few posts of name-calling and WHAM - the whole thread disappears.
Excuse me if I prefer to believe what I see with my own eyes.

I didn't actually see it, but apparently someone came on to the thread asking for her photo to be removed because she was leaving the forum, and she accused specific individuals of getting her banned. The people she named of course all piled on to the thread to deny the accusations and a huge bun-fight broke out.

Another thread was also pulled, because the fighting spilled over onto that thread, too. I mean, seriously, why do people behave like this..

Mandelbrot wrote: »

I meant exactly what I said. The small number of people who post something in a deliberately offensive and goading fashion with the specific purpose of eliciting an angry response. They have often looked through someone's 'back catalogue' of posts with the intention of finding 'sore spots'. They will continue to goad until they achieve a response they deem fit to report, hoping it will get that user a sanction.
You see them on many 'open' forums. Careful 'hands-on' moderation can nip such stuff in the bud.

That is very true, and some people can be rather sneaky, and keep their own individual posts neatly within the rules, but still bully or pester other users.

jaylee3

MothballsWallet wrote: »

I've just remembered a site that is moderated: Reddit.

They have this system called a "shadow ban" where users can be banned from posting without it affecting how they use the site: it's just that everyone else can't see their posts.

Woah! Reminds me of the episode of BLACK MIRROR from last Christmas, where this man was punished for bad behaviour, and he was alive and OK and all, but the 'powers that be' decided to BLOCK him from the world, so he could not see or communicate with anyone, and they could not see, or communicate with him. Creeeeeeeepy!

Everyone he saw looked like THIS



And this is how everyone saw him.

BarryBlue

MothballsWallet wrote: »

I've just remembered a site that is moderated: Reddit.

They have this system called a "shadow ban" where users can be banned from posting without it affecting how they use the site: it's just that everyone else can't see their posts.

How could it work here? If someone quotes you then you can be seen. I think it would soon be very obvious and quite easy to verify too.

MothballsWallet wrote: »

Er, the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" refers to an actual social movement - more info on Wikipedia here.

It's meant to be a bit of fun and a satire of Creationism (Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, anyone?).

It is the case that Pastafarianism is just as legitimate a religion as Christianity, Islam or Judaism. It also makes a very serious point and showing it disrespect is just as offensive as to any other religion. It is the height of hypocrisy for other religions' participants to deny it.

j.e.j. wrote: »

I didn't actually see it, but apparently someone came on to the thread asking for her photo to be removed because she was leaving the forum, and she accused specific individuals of getting her banned. The people she named of course all piled on to the thread to deny the accusations and a huge bun-fight broke out.

Another thread was also pulled, because the fighting spilled over onto that thread, too. I mean, seriously, why do people behave like this...

I seem to recall some fallout from that too, although I would never get involved in such a thread. It absolutely beggars belief to me that some people are so willing to put their personal information, photographs and associated information on an internet forum. There are people here whose names, addresses, photos and personal details can be accessed in seconds. Madness!

trollopscarletwoman

fermi wrote: »

No. I didn't mean it was used here. I have no idea if the MSE team ever use it. I'm sure they couldn't/wouldn't say if they ever did.

I just know from admining other forums running the same software as here, that it's a built in 'option' there that can be used if admin choose to.

It's referred to in the forum code as putting users

"in_coventry"

as in being sent there.

I think if your posts were never responded too, you'd soon work it out.

Now that the cat is out of the bag!

trollopscarletwoman

When I typed "been sent to Coventry" I never knew it had a forum administration based meaning. I can see why though.

What about Lady Godiva-any forums meaning there!

BarryBlue

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

When I typed "been sent to Coventry" I never knew it had a forum administration based meaning. I can see why though.

What about Lady Godiva-any forums meaning there!

"Sent to Coventry" originally referred to royalist prisoners in the Civil War who were transported there, a Parliamentarian city, to be held in jail. The location of the prison was actually in a church.


Monarchy and religion rear their heads again. I'm not sure what internet forums were around in the Civil War.

Mandelbrot

j.e.j. wrote: »

I didn't actually see it, but apparently someone came on to the thread asking for her photo to be removed because she was leaving the forum, and she accused specific individuals of getting her banned. The people she named of course all piled on to the thread to deny the accusations and a huge bun-fight broke out.

Another thread was also pulled, because the fighting spilled over onto that thread, too. I mean, seriously, why do people behave like this..

Well, I did actually see it, as I was reading the stuff you mention on the Photo thread, and actually posting on the other one (not as part of the fighting, I might add). There were a number of other threads pulled in similar circumstances around that time, and many since.

All it really needed was half a dozen or so posts removed, and perpetrators sidelined temporarily - a 1 day ban (to allow them to cool off) is preferable to a 'yellow card' warning.

fermi

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

When I typed "been sent to Coventry" I never knew it had a forum administration based meaning. I can see why though.

What about Lady Godiva-any forums meaning there!

As said, just an adaptation of a very old phrase by the software developers to describe the option of a global ignore list.

See: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=%22tachy+goes+to+coventry%22+vbulletin

Someone's idea at humour calling it that a long while ago, and though in new versions of the software it's no longer called that in the options, the internal php of the software still refers to users on that list of being in_coventry.