Nice People Thread No. 14, all Nice and Proper

kabayiri

PasturesNew wrote: »

Put the kids up for adoption. This has the added bonus of freeing up your weekends to drink beer and watch telly uninterrupted.

Today's child costs £230K each to bring up (to the age of 21). :eek:

That's a lot of laptops...

zagubov

GDB2222 wrote: »

I approve! But that's because I don't think that watching sport is interesting. Doing it is fun, but not watching someone else. So, not having the olympics clogging up my TV would be just fine, and having the money freed up spent on new drama would also be just fine.

I agree with all this!

Mind you I hardly seem to find much TV worth watching these days. We even have TV shows consisting of watching TV viewers watching some show about baking on ice on the telly or similar nonsense. I despair.

I'd bring back educational TV, keep the first four terrestrial channels, maybe Sky one, and get the TV stations to offer online streaming of old shows on demand.
Stuff the rest of it.

silvercar

Generali wrote: »

@kabayiri - What should someone who is an ordinary mortal with kids that will just download any old crap because their mate did do as some basic steps to protect themselves?

Don't do any banking/ finance stuff on any computer that the kids access.

michaels

silvercar wrote: »

Don't do any banking/ finance stuff on any computer that the kids access.

Surely once the kids have let something dodgy onto the network it can then propagate though?

kabayiri

silvercar wrote: »

Don't do any banking/ finance stuff on any computer that the kids access.

The Talk Talk issue is a breach of security at their end. In fact there was some discussion of exhortation possibly being involved, but no confirmation yet.

This is actually a powerful non-technical tactic that does work. Once someone has a limited amount of information about you, they can try and use this to extract further useful information.

I attended some "social hacking" meetings some time back where there was an interesting discussion about using verbal tactics to gain information from help desks.

Some of this is very clever. It's not a spotty 15 year old English/Chinese/Russian kid sat in his bedroom; bored of Minecraft; and deciding to break the internet by typing a few commands into his browser!

kabayiri

michaels wrote: »

Surely once the kids have let something dodgy onto the network it can then propagate though?

Good habits will help :

- separate accounts for each household member
- encrypt your home folders
- consider a password manager (http://lifehacker.com/5042616/five-best-password-managers)
- give kids a child account with limited capabilities
- consider some monitoring software (https://www.raymond.cc/blog/monitor-software-installs-remove-leftovers-install-monitor/)
- don't click on links shared in emails; copy and paste the URL
- don't run things sent via emails.

I make no claims the list is exhaustive! I am interested to know what other NPs do

michaels

kabayiri wrote: »

Good habits will help :

- separate accounts for each household member
- encrypt your home folders
- consider a password manager (http://lifehacker.com/5042616/five-best-password-managers)
- give kids a child account with limited capabilities
- consider some monitoring software (https://www.raymond.cc/blog/monitor-software-installs-remove-leftovers-install-monitor/)
- don't click on links shared in emails; copy and paste the URL
- don't run things sent via emails.

I make no claims the list is exhaustive! I am interested to know what other NPs do

Thanks

I am not a clicker of links and I don't think have ever had an infection, using only free AV and malware bytes occasionally. The lan has many different devices android and a real mix of windows. No real windows users at all and I try and share drives, folders and printers as much as possible as it just makes things easier. Sometimes newer versions of windows seem to restrict lan access in annoying ways that I don;t really understand but local lan connections are set as trusted. I do keep the windows up to date. Kids devices have restricted hours and isp parental controls are turned on 24/7. for all of google we have individual user accounts that are on restricted settings which seems to really help with search results, unsuitable youtube stuff etc not getting through.

The danger is that the kids are link clickers though I did have a white list on one of their pcs but it only works on one browser that doesn't support other things they need to do.

michaels

I saw this and thought of FC, lets hope she is ok.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34594854

GDB2222

michaels wrote: »

Surely once the kids have let something dodgy onto the network it can then propagate though?

And that is precisely why we have two networks.

kabayiri

GDB2222 wrote: »

And that is precisely why we have two networks.

Ultimately, I suggest people do what is right for them. A combination of things will work; it doesn't have to be multiple networks.

Security is more a frame of mind. I nearly got caught out some time back, with a Barclays breach. I was fortunate not to be impacted, and took it as a lesson to be learned.