Dla/ca

Poppie68

DLA/PIP should be means tested but only the claimants income should be taken into account and payments should reflect their level of disabilities.

Rather than adding people to low,middle,high,standard or enhanced rates claimants should have to produce a GP supporting letter as part of the application process as at the moment some applicants seem to avoid their GP as they can't rely on the GP confirming illness/disabilities as stated on the application forms.

50Twuncle

Poppie68 wrote: »

DLA/PIP should be means tested but only the claimants income should be taken into account and payments should reflect their level of disabilities.

Rather than adding people to low,middle,high,standard or enhanced rates claimants should have to produce a GP supporting letter as part of the application process as at the moment some applicants seem to avoid their GP as they can't rely on the GP confirming illness/disabilities as stated on the application forms.

I agree with that - but isn't that putting even more workload / responsibility on to overworked GP's ?

Poppie68

50Twuncle wrote: »

I agree with that - but isn't that putting even more workload / responsibility on to overworked GP's ?

GP's would only have to dictate a letter and they can ask a fee so making it worthwhile.

50Twuncle

Poppie68 wrote: »

GP's would only have to dictate a letter and they can ask a fee so making it worthwhile.

But how many patients does an average GP have - 2000
How many of those would be involved - perhaps 400 (1 in 5)
Would this be expanded to involve UC / ESA / Job Seekers - where does it stop ?

Poppie68

No,reports should be restricted to DLA/PIP and ESA patients only, after all a UC or JSA claimant wouldn't need a GP letter anyway.

Indie_Kid

Poppie68 wrote: »

DLA/PIP should be means tested but only the claimants income should be taken into account and payments should reflect their level of disabilities.

Rather than adding people to low,middle,high,standard or enhanced rates claimants should have to produce a GP supporting letter as part of the application process as at the moment some applicants seem to avoid their GP as they can't rely on the GP confirming illness/disabilities as stated on the application forms.

That's me completely screwed then. I only see my GP / the nurse to get medication. I am completely incurable.

The system you're proposing is going to end up very expensive.

Do some people have issues with disabled people having a bit of luzury in their life or something? Seems that some of you are really bitter.

50Twuncle

Poppie68 wrote: »

No,reports should be restricted to DLA/PIP and ESA patients only, after all a UC or JSA claimant wouldn't need a GP letter anyway.

It would only be fair if the GP knew each patient to the same level - Many disabled people do not go to their GPs regularly - so would need an "annual assessment" again putting extra workload on the GP -The numbers would potentially be on average 400 claimants per GP - That is a huge number
I am not saying that it would not work - but would you like to be a GP - responsible not only for 1600 non-disabled people but also responsible for the financial well-being of around 400 disabled people ?
I certainly wouldn't ....

50Twuncle

This http://www.efds.co.uk/resources/facts_and_statistics makes interesting reading....

Poppie68

Indie_Kid wrote: »

That's me completely screwed then. I only see my GP / the nurse to get medication. I am completely incurable.

The system you're proposing is going to end up very expensive.

Do some people have issues with disabled people having a bit of luzury in their life or something? Seems that some of you are really bitter.

I'm certainly not bitter and have no issues with the disabled, as I'm disabled myself, I was just responding to the possibility that DLA/PIP/ESA maybe be changing again. If they go ahead and tax or means then it's not fair to include household income, it should be only the claimants income that is taken into account.
Or leave them alone.....these are only my opinions and not placed here to offend.

In regards to your GP and lack of contact.well most people will also have hospital records or original diagnosis for the GP to produce a letter.

SandraScarlett

Parva wrote: »

Andy aka Benniebert, why not go and run for an elected councillor in your area? You've spent so many years here with your opinionated views and keep returning on new accounts. You clearly have an agenda, go forth and shine.

:T :T :T :T :T

benniebert wrote: »

Absolutely!


I just don't understand then as to why people are getting annoyed and upset over the possibility of benefits such as DLA/AA as well contribution based ESA & JSA being means tested - especially if they are sat on £16000 + of capital. I am a fair man and wouldn't expect anybody with that level of savings to want to claim benefits in the first place. Brown & Cameron both have a lot to answer for with their claims for DLA whilst being the PM.

Surely "we are fair men" would be more appropriate, considering your numerous AEs. Whether or not you personally have a disability, you cannot begin to understand how the disabilities of other people impacts on their lives, or wallets.


I'm recovering from a minor foot operation, which means I can't drive, and over the last 6 weeks, I've spent a fortune on taxis. If I was always in this position, instead of just for 2 or 3 months, I'd find it difficult, if not impossible, to manage on the mobility component of DLA/PIP, which I believe is about £55-ish a week.


Just because you, or other posters, may know people who receive DLA/PIP and these people may have said they don't need it, that doesn't mean that everybody who receives these benefits is in the same position.


I was a round-the-clock carer, and I know, from experience, what a hard life it is. And if you're in receipt of SRP, you don't get CA. I don't begrudge a penny that goes to carers or those with disabilities, and I hope there will never be a Government that would subject these paltry amounts to means-testing.


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