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  • Indie_Kid
    Indie_Kid Posts: 23,097 Forumite
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    melbury wrote: »

    That's the amount of savings you can have before your income asbed benefits stop completely. £16000 in savings is plenty, imo, for you to support yourself.
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  • benniebert
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    Indie_Kid wrote: »
    That's the amount of savings you can have before your income asbed benefits stop completely. £16000 in savings is plenty, imo, for you to support yourself.

    Absolutely!


    I just don't understand then as to why people are getting annoyed and upset over the possibility of benefits such as DLA/AA as well contribution based ESA & JSA being means tested - especially if they are sat on £16000 + of capital. I am a fair man and wouldn't expect anybody with that level of savings to want to claim benefits in the first place. Brown & Cameron both have a lot to answer for with their claims for DLA whilst being the PM.
  • Parva
    Parva Posts: 1,104 Forumite
    Andy aka Benniebert, why not go and run for an elected councillor in your area? You've spent so many years here with your opinionated views and keep returning on new accounts. You clearly have an agenda, go forth and shine.
  • Poppie68
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    benniebert wrote: »
    Absolutely!


    I just don't understand then as to why people are getting annoyed and upset over the possibility of benefits such as DLA/AA as well contribution based ESA & JSA being means tested - especially if they are sat on £16000 + of capital. I am a fair man and wouldn't expect anybody with that level of savings to want to claim benefits in the first place. Brown & Cameron both have a lot to answer for with their claims for DLA whilst being the PM.




    Means testing DLA/PIP/CB ESA will cause hardship to many couples were one partner is too disabled or unwell enough to work and the partner is earning.
    There are disabled people whose health and wellbeing will suffer if they lose their disability/sickness benefits due to means testing and their incapacity to ever be able to work. Many rely on these payments to fund extra treatments not available on the NHS, carers,transport etc. Maybe the government should be looking at means testing just the benefits claimant and not the household?
  • merlin68
    merlin68 Posts: 2,405 Forumite
    From what i read anyone with savings over £16000 wont get universal credit, so that means people loose out on their tax credits as well.
  • 50Twuncle
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    merlin68 wrote: »
    From what i read anyone with savings over £16000 wont get universal credit, so that means people loose out on their tax credits as well.



    STOP SCAREMONGERING - These are just one option that the government is considering !!
    for "WON'T" read "MAY NOT".
  • 50Twuncle
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    50Twuncle wrote: »
    I would appreciate an answer to my assumption..
    Are you disabled ?
    Do you rely on Disability benefits for day to day living ?



    benniebert : I am still waiting for an answer .
  • 50Twuncle
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    If they decided to cut CA from 40% of claimants - can you imagine what would happen when many carers are forced to find work to make ends meet - leaving many disabled people alone for long periods of time with no support.. horrific - they won't get away with thid
  • FBaby
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    I have to say that I also don't understand why DLA is not mean tested when just about every other working adult age benefits are. CB is now means tested, yet we all know that children cost money, about the same to meet their essential needs so why is is different with disabilities.

    Different people with different disabilities will need different levels of additional income. Yet as it is, this is irrelevant whem claiming, everyone get the same (within the bandings) regardless of whether they actually need the additional income or not. I think DLA/Carer needs serious reform to adapt to actual financial need rather than assumed need based on the condition.

    I strongly believe that some disabled people actually need a much higher income to cope with their disabilities whilst some don't need it at all. I have a number of friends who claim DLA for their children and clearly say that they don't need it as no additional money can help with their child's disability and their household income is such that they don't need DLA to get them a decent life, but they are entitled, so they claim...and spend the money on luxuries because they can.

    Yet another friend of ours has had a serious stroke at 50 and this has totally changed his and his wife's life. They had to sell their house and live off the proceed whilst spending money to make his life better as he was left seriously disabled. They are now running out and are worried how they will cope as he is getting weekly private physio sessions to help him with the pain which he can't get on the NHS and weekly counselling sessions because at the moment, he is so depressed, they are scared of the implications. Yet, they might have to stop these or at least seriously reduce them when their savings run out.

    To think that both are getting the same amount of benefits and that one is using it to go on exotic holidays whilst the other is worried about the implications of reducing essential sessions really makes me think that the system is just very very wrong as it is now and really needs to be reformed.
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