Dla/ca

50Twuncle

http://www.nhs.uk/Planners/Yourhealth/Pages/Careplan.aspx
Everyone with a long-term condition can have a care plan if they want one.

Poppie68

50Twuncle wrote: »

http://www.nhs.uk/Planners/Yourhealth/Pages/Careplan.aspx
Everyone with a long-term condition can have a care plan if they want one.

Surgeries are being more proactive in offering the CarePlans....If anyone's surgeries have not offered a patient can request one.

Indie_Kid

Carers allowance is already means tested to some extent and it's something I've never understood and something I've always been against.

KxMx

Yes I am worried.

ESA WRAG hasn't been mentioned- this time- but as someone getting that as my sole income I feel very vulnerable and worried about the future.

I do not qualify for the SG and neither are my problems likely to improve in the near future.

My last WRAG award was granted for the maximum 2 years that should give you some idea!

densol_2

Poppie68 wrote: »

Not all DLA/PIP claimants are life long beneficiaries many have worked up until there health changed and continuing in work was impossible. Their household then suffered the impact of losing a wage and many also have costly outgoings due to their health which DLA/PIPand ESA helps to pay for.

The government needs to leave the genuine disabled people alone and start looking at 'Benefit Families'.....
There are whole households that are on long term benefits will erroneous claim's who know the system inside and out and nobody tackles them, the government goes after the soft touches of society.

I agree with last para.

and first para is me. I was injured at work and took ex gratia redundancy type payment. I get IIDB now and I work self employed for 16 hours a week as my son now gets DLA highest and I've just claimed carers allowance. Yes I used to earn a LOT - that's no more ! I've got a huge mortgage and big house. That will have to be sold in two years time. I've never claimed benefit in my life but you know with WTC, CTC, DLA, IIDB and carers allowance, and my £100 pw earnings PLUS I have to eat into my redundancy savings to top it up every month - we are just ok - but it won't last and my kids are in final years of education - so it's downsizing.

Not everyone on benefits are scrounges or liars. If it wasn't for this lifeline I've been given I would have lost everything. I never expected to lose a career I spent 22 years building up. Maybe one day I'll be able to go back to it ! I HATE living like this - on a knife edge - worrying constantly about changes each successive poxy government may decide to make as a voting win !

EDITED to add - in fact I don't deny I was previously one of those condescenders of the benefit claimants - but I'll tell you one thing - it could HAPPEN TO YOU like it did me ! Those who have good health enjoy it whilst you have it !

50Twuncle

densol wrote: »

I agree with last para.

and first para is me. I was injured at work and took ex gratia redundancy type payment. I get IIDB now and I work self employed for 16 hours a week as my son now gets DLA highest and I've just claimed carers allowance. Yes I used to earn a LOT - that's no more ! I've got a huge mortgage and big house. That will have to be sold in two years time. I've never claimed benefit in my life but you know with WTC, CTC, DLA, IIDB and carers allowance, and my £100 pw earnings PLUS I have to eat into my redundancy savings to top it up every month - we are just ok - but it won't last and my kids are in final years of education - so it's downsizing.

Not everyone on benefits are scrounges or liars. If it wasn't for this lifeline I've been given I would have lost everything. I never expected to lose a career I spent 22 years building up. Maybe one day I'll be able to go back to it ! I HATE living like this - on a knife edge - worrying constantly about changes each successive poxy government may decide to make as a voting win !

EDITED to add - in fact I don't deny I was previously one of those condescenders of the benefit claimants - but I'll tell you one thing - it could HAPPEN TO YOU like it did me ! Those who have good health enjoy it whilst you have it !

Same here - why should we be condemned just because we have savings ?
I mean - I am in my early 50's and have paid over 30 years of NI contributions - so "bennieberts" comments that we should treat benefits as a lifeline, offends me !!


When I was working - I never expected to have to rely on benefits in order to survive day to day - but if we lost both DLA and CA - We would be digging into savings - which, after all - are no more than your average retirement benefit would pay out, and that is what my savings are for - retirement (just 15 years early) - which would not have been my choice, if I had been given the option.
I do not claim ESA (I am not entitled to (too much savings))- I claim DLA and my wife claims CA - She recently stopped working (earning £55 per week) to look after me..

Indie_Kid

FBaby wrote: »

I think you are looking at it from your own perspective. I personally don't have an issue with anyone having some luxuries, I have issues with some people on benefits enjoying many luxuries whilst others who really need additional income to cope with their disability don't get enough. Yes, I would rather see DLA re-directed so that someone could afford a bespoke wheelchair that means that they don't get dreadful sores on their bottom than someone with depression being able to go on a holiday abroad.

You do have issues with DLA being used in a certain way and it's quite obvious how bitter you are.

I sometimes use my DLA to go away and it pays for me to go to a group I attend once a week - that group is a 60 mile round trip. I can't cope at the local group (a 10 minute car ride away) and so, my DLA pays for the extra cost of attending the group that's further away. (they also charge for the group; the local one doesn't) And my DLA paying for me to go away gives my parents a break. Which according to you, isn't allowed.

benniebert

50Twuncle wrote: »

I think that there are two completely different issues being discussed her - DLA and CA - I think that the one that is concerning us most is CA ?
CA is under threat of being completely lost by some carers - due to the governments "idea" that carers do not require the money - and if they make it means tested, it will save the country £millions ?
My wife has been claiming CA for the last 4 years and has only been able to earn a small amount to supplement our income, without it affecting CA (She was bringing in £55 per week) - she recently decided to give THAT up, to concentrate on caring for me - so if she loses this CA - What will she do ?
Try to find more employment, elsewhere ?
What will happen to me, when she is out ?

Where does all of that come from?


The idea behind taxing/means testing CA is so that those who have a large enough household income shouldn't receive any benefit for caring - they have enough to live as it is.


For those that don't have a household income sufficient enough to live on will still get CA as it is means tested.


In addition, as a person is entitled to receive £10600 a year before they pay tax, that works out as to £204 a week. As CA + maximum earnings falls well below that figure they wouldn't pay tax on any of it.


What is wanted is to make sure that people use their own money first and not to expect the taxpayers of this country to top up a large household income.

benniebert

50Twuncle wrote: »

My father-in-law is 87 and has not been to his GP (or hospital) for 35 years - he recently had a problem with his eye and was talked in to going to see his GP - Who said "Who are you" when he walked through the door !!
He has been registered with the surgery for 50 + years and his notes moved without him to 3 different surgery locations
What happens to his care plan ?

Same as the most of us - we don't have one!

benniebert

50Twuncle wrote: »

http://www.nhs.uk/Planners/Yourhealth/Pages/Careplan.aspx
Everyone with a long-term condition can have a care plan if they want one.

Since when? I've been to see my GP this morning to ask where my care plan is. I was politely told that there is no such thing as a GP led Care Plan other than being told to come back in 12 months for a drug review.


So no, my GP thinks that I am talking through my hat - there is no such thing, although you can ask for one to be prepared by Social Services if they think you need one.