Number plates - dealer addresses

stator

Retrogamer wrote: »

I know the part you're thinking of "Plates must be made from a retro reflective material"

Regular number plates are made from a retro reflective material and then mated with clear plastic to support & protect them.

Likewise with the alloy plates, the number plate itself is compromised of retro reflective paint and is then mated to an alloy material.

As long as it conforms to the rest of the regulations the material the plate is mounted to doesn't matter. If it did, it wouldn't be allowed to carry the BS marker.

I'm not claiming whether they are or aren't legal but many PC Plods believe they are illegal so will cause you hassle one way or the other

Gloomendoom

Car_54 wrote: »

Can someone explain why anyone would care whether their number plate has a maker's mark & postcode?

Before the legislation came in, any tom !!!!!! or p!key could go into a car parts store and get a set of plates made up for a car. It didn't matter whether they owned it or had nicked it. Now you need to prove you are the registered keeper. The maker's mark and postcode is supposed to show that you bought the plates from a registered supplier who should have checked your docs before making you a plate.

bod1467

Car_54 wrote: »

Can someone explain why anyone would care whether their number plate has a maker's mark & postcode?

Retrogamer wrote: »

Because if the number plate was manufactured after a certain date in 2001 they must carry these details to be legal. Otherwise you're committing an offense.
The likely hood of being fined for it is low, but it still exists and people still get fined for it.

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Before the legislation came in, any tom !!!!!! or p!key could go into a car parts store and get a set of plates made up for a car. It didn't matter whether they owned it or had nicked it. Now you need to prove you are the registered keeper. The maker's mark and postcode is supposed to show that you bought the plates from a registered supplier who should have checked your docs before making you a plate.

I suspect you are both misinterpreting what Car 54 was asking. I believe the question was more along the lines of "So what if it shows the dealer's details? You can't see the plates when you're driving".

I guess for some people, they simply don't want to give free advertising.

tedted

the reason that you have the suppliers name and post code is that the police can ask the supplier for the name and address of the person who purchased the plate as they have to keep a record of the buyer,his or her address ,what proof did they provide and how they paid

Johno100

So instead of having number plates made up, the scrotes who want to use them for nefarious purposes now just steal them from innocent members of the public's cars (40,000 a year at the last count). So how exactly have these measures improved things?

Perhaps making tamper proof plates mandatory on new vehicles and replacement plates would be a better measure.

Car_54

bod1467 wrote: »

I suspect you are both misinterpreting what Car 54 was asking. I believe the question was more along the lines of "So what if it shows the dealer's details? You can't see the plates when you're driving".

I guess for some people, they simply don't want to give free advertising.

You're right. I fully understand that plates need to conform to the law, and I was trying to get to why any car owner would care about such an inconsequential matter as the small print on a number plate.

Perhaps one of those who do care would explain.

Iceweasel

Perhaps several posters on this thread have misunderstood exactly what some dealers stick on the plates that is NOT a legal requirement.

See this supplier of number-plate strips example:

http://www.qubicprint.co.uk/products/Automotive_Speciality_Products/Forecourt_Display/Number_Plate_Name_Strips.aspx

The legally necessary bit is the tiny writing under the letter T in the example - no-one surely is objecting to that.

What I for one don't want is the free advertising that the dealer gets from the totally unnecessary additional strip underneath the plate.

stator

Iceweasel wrote: »

The legally necessary bit is the tiny writing under the letter T in the example - no-one surely is objecting to that.

I object to it. That's why I was pleased with the halfords one that uses almost invisible text.

Iceweasel

stator wrote: »

I object to it. That's why I was pleased with the halfords one that uses almost invisible text.

Ah OK - I was meaning that surely no-one was objecting to it in principal - I agree that it needs to be as discrete as possible - perhaps a slightly different shade of yellow on a rear plate and off-white on the front plate.

That particular example is in black I think.

But it's those damn strips underneath that are ridiculous.

The reason for the security is based on a false premise of course - checking the buyers docs in order to prevent the criminals obtaining plates has clearly not worked.

It's like the gun laws - tightening them only makes life difficult for honest folk.

Tamper-proof plates will never exist.

Perhaps if everyone has personal plates that might help - by that I mean that you get issued with a government made number plate for life and just transfer it from vehicle to vehicle - plates are then very easily identifiable.

force_ten

I do not object to the bs mark and the suppliers name and postcode but like the halfords plates as it is on there but very discreet

I do object to my car being a free advert for the supplying dealer, when i buy a car the first thing i do is take all the dealers stickers out of the car and if they are advertising on the plates they would come off as well

the Arnold Clark stickers really annoy me every time i see one screaming at me from the rear window of the car in front

we have a dealer around here that has got his dealer name on chrome badges that he sticks on all over the back of cars that he sells

no way would i have that nor would i ever drive a car with an arnold clark sticker :rotfl::rotfl: