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187% increase in gas usage

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  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    You say you can't afford to eat for two weeks, but you're content to spend c. £30 a week on your excess consumption in the meantime? That's not exactly moneysaving.
    And unless you've forgotten to tell us otherwise, you are still on the most expensive tariff when a change would save you another £4-5 a week.
    How are you intending to clear your £550 arrears in the meantime? If you continue not to act to then you will eventually find yourself with a compulsory PPM fitted (actually, that would be one way to eliminate the possibility of a faulty meter without paying for a test...).
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • zeupater
    zeupater Posts: 5,390 Forumite
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    DAKOTA45 wrote: »
    .... I watched the wheel continue at a steady pace until the black marker disappeared… about 20 or so minutes..
    General opinion is that the wheel would stop more or less immediately on cutting the power...
    Hi

    Movement should actually stop pretty quickly, certainly well within 20minutes, but more likely a couple of seconds when a decent load is removed and any voltage drop stabilises ...

    As it is, it seems that your usage is pretty consistent at around 15kWh/day which is still quite high considering the appliances which you've mentioned.

    When posting about taking readings a few days ago I recommended taking readings every few hours - have you done this ?? .... the reasoning is to attempt to discover whether the load is constant, or at particular times of the day. Looking at the pattern could help.

    From what you've told us, and if nothing has been overlooked, 15kWh/day is probably somewhere around double what would reasonably be expected, however, in turn, it's probably about half the usage which your original ~£500/quarter would suggest. Without an energy monitor of some kind, the only tool at hand is regular readings to establish whether there is a usage pattern ...

    HTH
    Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
    B)
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
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    DAKOTA45, there's another thought. My local library has power meters available to rent. You might try contacting yours to see whether they do as well. They might even be available free of charge for a few weeks.
  • DAKOTA45
    DAKOTA45 Posts: 592 Forumite
    jamesd wrote: »
    DAKOTA45, there's another thought. My local library has power meters available to rent. You might try contacting yours to see whether they do as well. They might even be available free of charge for a few weeks.

    Ha! This is the back of beyond and my library doesn't even have a working photocopier… only open for two half days a week..:(
  • DAKOTA45
    DAKOTA45 Posts: 592 Forumite
    zeupater wrote: »
    Hi

    Movement should actually stop pretty quickly, certainly well within 20minutes, but more likely a couple of seconds when a decent load is removed and any voltage drop stabilises ...

    As it is, it seems that your usage is pretty consistent at around 15kWh/day which is still quite high considering the appliances which you've mentioned.

    When posting about taking readings a few days ago I recommended taking readings every few hours - have you done this ?? .... the reasoning is to attempt to discover whether the load is constant, or at particular times of the day. Looking at the pattern could help.

    From what you've told us, and if nothing has been overlooked, 15kWh/day is probably somewhere around double what would reasonably be expected, however, in turn, it's probably about half the usage which your original ~£500/quarter would suggest. Without an energy monitor of some kind, the only tool at hand is regular readings to establish whether there is a usage pattern ...

    HTH
    Z

    Thanks, Z…

    Definitely, these old meters stop working almost as soon as you turn off the power… I have never seen anything like this before.

    I haven't taken readings every few hours but will start today… I was thinking the same thing as the wheel seemed to be turning a bit slower yesterday…but it could be my imagination.

    There are two little back to back brick buildings in my garden which used to be the outside loos… Mine doesn't have electricity, but I know for a fact that my next door neighbour's one does and that she runs power to her electric chicken fencing from it… just a thought…

    There was also a well at the end of the drive with a submerged electric pump… another possibility.

    Yes, the usage of 15 units a day wouldn't come to 500 quid a quarter… really odd.

    Thanks for the post!
  • DAKOTA45
    DAKOTA45 Posts: 592 Forumite
    macman wrote: »
    You say you can't afford to eat for two weeks, but you're content to spend c. £30 a week on your excess consumption in the meantime? That's not exactly moneysaving.
    And unless you've forgotten to tell us otherwise, you are still on the most expensive tariff when a change would save you another £4-5 a week.
    How are you intending to clear your £550 arrears in the meantime? If you continue not to act to then you will eventually find yourself with a compulsory PPM fitted (actually, that would be one way to eliminate the possibility of a faulty meter without paying for a test...).

    I have already contacted Eon and made provision to pay the arrears.

    This is a debt and my first priority.

    My next is to get the money together to pay an electrician.
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    Have you changed tariff?
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • gazapc
    gazapc Posts: 257 Forumite
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    DAKOTA45 wrote: »

    There are two little back to back brick buildings in my garden which used to be the outside loos… Mine doesn't have electricity, but I know for a fact that my next door neighbour's one does and that she runs power to her electric chicken fencing from it… just a thought…

    There was also a well at the end of the drive with a submerged electric pump… another possibility.

    Yes, the usage of 15 units a day wouldn't come to 500 quid a quarter… really odd.

    Thanks for the post!

    Electric fence will be a tiny usage, hence why you can power them of car batteries for weeks. A pump is a different story, water is very heavy so moving it is very energy intensive.
  • Former_E.ON_Company_Representative:_Malc
    Former_E.ON_Company_Representative:_Malc Posts: 6,558 Organisation Representative
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    Morning Dakota

    I'm afraid, you're in the wrong area on our website. The page you're looking at is about Tariff Information Labels and Tariff Comparison Rates (TCR). Among other things, this lists many of our old tariffs, most of which are no longer available. For your current purpose, please ignore this part of the website. To see the tariffs available at the moment and for a quote, you need to log into your online account and select 'find our best deal for you' from the left hand menu. Then, choose 'quick quote.'

    On the following pages, choose the options best suited to your circumstances. For example, single rate/Direct Debit/Paperless Billing or whatever other option you prefer. On the usage page, pop in the annual consumption in kWh. At the end, you'll be taken to a page listing all 4 of the tariffs we currently have available.

    Based on the usage you've entered, the monthly and annual costs will be shown along with the terms of each tariff. Choose the one best suited to your circumstances. I'd also pop the same usage into the independent comparison sites. These will list the tariffs available both with us and with the other suppliers.

    Hope this helps point you in the right direction Dakota and, if you decide on one of our tariffs, don't forget about the Reward Points I mentioned earlier in post number 14.

    Malc
    Official Company Representative
    I am an official company representative of E.ON. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    edited 2 April 2015 at 12:11PM
    Or you could just call E.on and say 'please switch me to your Age UK tariff with monthly direct debit'. Job done.
    There are only 4 tariffs. You cannot do a comparison based on just unit costs, because of the standing charges and other variables. The Age UK tariff is, based on your current usage, just £1.06 pa more than the one year fix. However the advantage is that it's a 2 year fix with no exit fees. So, if prices go up, you have a 2 year freeze. If they drop, you can bail out early at no cost.
    If you are staying with E.on, this tariff is a no-brainer for you, assuming you are 60 or over. You'll save about £60pa on the tariff vs Standard Variable, and a further £40pa by using monthly DD with paperless billing.
    That's £100 off your debt for ten minutes work.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
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