The Garden Fence - help and support in tough times

fuddle

I do Floss but it means extra burdon on DH at the weekends to get me there.

I have ordered this weeks meat online to be delivered by courier. I don't know if I'm jumping out if the frying pan into the fire Mar because I know antibiotic use is rife across farms but... in the mean time??? Tired of it all and have been for years. Wasn't it Cambylobactor hitting the headlines in supermarket poultry last year?

Mar quality standard kite mark is best I can gather at the minute. To get that accreditation means the meat production has to be higher standard than what is required by law apparently.

Floss

The farms we use are mostly organic, one is awaiting it's Soil Association approval. They aren't allowed to use antibiotics as routine, as part of being organic.

If you can easily obtain organic meat & poultry, that's a way of avoiding antib's in meat.

monnagran

Fuddle, stop worrying now. Your child will be your child until you draw your last breath. The problems change, the relationship matures, (a bit) but you will always, always be her mam.
My darling Dad still ticked me off when he was 97 and I was 72. My boys are 44 and nearly 47 and I am still looking for signs of improvement.

You have been, are and will go on being, the most fantastic mother to your girls. They are a credit to you and your DH.

I've also read about the supermarket meat scare. To my mind this is just the latest dire prediction of doom and disaster. Obviously I'm not thrilled at the thought of ingesting antibiotics with my cottage pie and I am grateful to those who are tackling the problem, but after e-coli, mad cows, carcinogenic barbecues, toxic sprays on fruit and veg.......I have come to the conclusion that there is no food under the sun fit to eat.

I would love to eat my beef from a grass-fed cow named Daisy and eat only veg grown by my own hands, ( I was going to say fair hands but having looked at them that would be a flagrant abuse of the trades description act.) However I buy as much as possible from the farm shop and the rest comes from the Co-op, so I eat and pray.

Possibly, worry about what nasties our food contains will kill us faster than the food itself. Possibly I am talking nonsense and will one day get my just deserts.

Hester, your talk of bondage stuff reminds me of a 5yearold boy in my school who secretly, and strictly against his mother's instructions, brought a pair of toy handcuffs in his school bag.
During the day he managed to handcuff his wrist to his ankle. What had he not brought to school with him? Why, the key of course.
Phoning his mother produced no joy. She was out for the day.
He spent the day bent double and moving around in a sort of sideways, crouching crawl.
His mother's face when we carried him out to meet her was a picture.

I believe that he is a highly respected professional man now. I have also heard that his mother is still dining out on the story.

x

nursemaggie

No you are not talking nonsense MonnaI agree with every word. I don't think any food we eat has ever been fit to eat. That's one reason why we cook it.

Actually we have never eaten so well. Most of what they tell us about what we should eat or not they will tell us the opposite in a few year, they do not know because it would take a lifetime to test the theories and they would have to dissect healthy live people to find out. No one is going to do that.

All this nonsense about antioxidants, we make them ourselves, apparently we cannot absorb them from food our stomach acid destroys them. You're right about the worry killing us first. So no such thing as superfoods all you need is as big a variety of food as you can get, just a little sugar as a treat, Nothing is bad as long as you eat it in moderation.

Fuddle the one thing you could do is go vegetarian then you will not have to worry about what is in the meat. Just don't buy lots of these veggie ready meals they are badly balanced and too low in protein.

mardatha

Thanks Fuddle x. There is one organic farm that I know about but it's a bloody nightmare to get to, over miles and miles of lonely hill roads and when we do pass it it's been when we were lost.

fuddle

You're right about no food being safe. A little one has died in Scotland because of ecoli. It's thought to have been found in blue cheese.

I don't believe in super foods in terms of marketing but I do believe that a diet rich in berries, green tea and natural dairy/fermented products is a darn good diet to have for me. Yes to a diet rich and varied but some foods are better than others in terms of nutrients and benefits and a knowledge of this, for me, gives me a good armour.

FairyPrincessk

Evening all,

I think the headlines are alarmist for the wrong reasons.

From what I understand you're not likely to ingest antibiotics in your meat because of the regulations introduced in 2006 mandating waiting periods etc. However, they continue to use them which is what is producing the resistant strains of bacteria. That absolutely needs sorting out (and is what I think the headlines should be about), but in the mean time I'll just keep ensuring all meat is thoroughly cooked, wash hands/clean utensils and surfaces scrupulously and go on about my business. We only eat meat a couple of times per week at most anyway.

About the blue cheese, they said on the news it was unpasturised.

Long day all around here. Just about to collapse on the sofa for a bit before bed.

T

fuddle

Is blue cheese normally pasteurised?

nursemaggie

Yes most blue cheese is unpasteurised anyway you should not give it to small children so I would think that is why. It will be for the same reason you should not eat it, and not soft cheeses like brie when you are pregnant or breastfeeding.

Hard_Up_Hester

I can remember when I was pregnant I was advised to eat lots of liver and drink half a pint of Guinness a day!