Booked for using mobile while stationery

Joe_Horner

Car_54 wrote: »

Really? Can you quote the law in question?

Frankly, No.

Why? Because I can't be arrsed to go and look through all my case law notes just because someone on a forum can't be arrsed to do a google search for the same info or turn a key off before using their phone.

eta: But don't worry, I'm sure that when you're trying to win that landmark case against Da Man the prosecutor will have all the references you could want right there for you

Car_54

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Frankly, No.

Why? Because I can't be arrsed to go and look through all my case law notes just because someone on a forum can't be arrsed to do a google search for the same info or turn a key off before using their phone.

Your comment was 'if your engine is running you're "driving" for the purpose of using a mobile ...'

AFAIK while there is case law defining "driving"in various contexts, there is none related to mobile use.

Spicy_McHaggis

Joe_Horner wrote: »

It does amuse me sometimes on here how people seem to believe that the law is what (their interpretation of) common sense thinks it should be rather than what it is - which is often completely different.

As it stands the law is quite clear that if your engine is running you're "driving" for the purpose of using a mobile and several other car-related activities.

If you feel it should be different from that then you're perfectly at liberty to get yourself ticketed, refuse the FP, go to court and try to set a new precedent.

But you'll probably find it's easier, cheaper and less stressful in the long run to just play the game as it stands and turn your engine off if you're going to use the phone - it only takes the turn of a key!

What's your source for that because you can be driving without the engine running?

DarkShatter

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

What's your source for that because you can be driving without the engine running?

Pulse and glide for example

bod1467

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

Without the handbrake on and in neutral?

Driving.

bod1467 wrote: »

Nice swerve ... I knew I shouldn't have edited my post to add (optional).

WITH the handbrake on?

Conveniently overlooked Spicy?

Alter_ego

Nobody seems to have heard the term "In charge of a vehicle" which the OP clearly was.
I'd guess he was fined for "Using a handheld mobile device while in charge of a motor vehicle"

Spicy_McHaggis

Alter_ego wrote: »

Nobody seems to have heard the term "In charge of a vehicle" which the OP clearly was.
I'd guess he was fined for "Using a handheld mobile device while in charge of a motor vehicle"

Driving and supervising a learner are the two offences for phones.

Are you now claiming if you stop and jump into the passenger seat to make a call you are also guilty.

Alter_ego

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

Driving and supervising a learner are the two offences for phones.

Are you now claiming if you stop and jump into the passenger seat to make a call you are also guilty.

No..........................

Aretnap

Alter_ego wrote: »

I'd guess he was fined for "Using a handheld mobile device while in charge of a motor vehicle"

You'd guess wrong. There's no such offence.

Spicy_McHaggis

Alter_ego wrote: »

No..........................

So being in charge while using a phone is obviously not an offence then.