Crossover from DLA/PIP Should I reapply?

fletcher88

Indie_Kid wrote: »

I wouldn't read too much into that. It would also depend how much information you put on your form.

Thanks for the response.

I did put a good amount of info into the forms to be fair. Both myself and my mom (who cares for me) both did look at each other with a kind of "why did she bother coming" look once she left.

Fin53

fletcher88 wrote: »

Thanks for the response.

I did put a good amount of info into the forms to be fair. Both myself and my mom (who cares for me) both did look at each other with a kind of "why did she bother coming" look once she left.

Which Company did your Assessment? I had a home visit from Atos & the lady was here for an hour & a quarter.

benniebert

fletcher88 wrote: »

Thanks for all the initial responses I got. I now have an update.

I re-applied initially over telephone and got all my forms sent across by the end of the month.

I now have a letter saying I will get a home consultation appointment with a health professional. Is this a good/bad/normal sign?

Also, I dont know whether I mentioned it, but I also work. From anyone's experience will this cause some kind of conflict between work and them actually knowing I am applying for this? I am always very reluctant to tell anyone I recieve PIP/DLA. I am worried what they will think of me or even how they may punish me in terms of my wages/future wage etc.

People moving from DLA to PIP have a 75% chance of getting PIP with 25% being refused.
Those that have never been on DLA, the figure is lower at 48% to get a PIP award with 52% failing.

fletcher88

Fin53 wrote: »

Which Company did your Assessment? I had a home visit from Atos & the lady was here for an hour & a quarter.

No it was Capita. I think. As I said it was a home visit and she was here for roughly 30 mins.

She told me she had dealt with many epilepsy cases too.

benniebert wrote: »

People moving from DLA to PIP have a 75% chance of getting PIP with 25% being refused.
Those that have never been on DLA, the figure is lower at 48% to get a PIP award with 52% failing.

Interesting.

Is that just your own interpretation? Or is there actual substance behind that?

Thanks for the replies.

Still to here anything and it has been over a week since the home consultation. She said at that point it normally takes 2-3 weeks but they have cleared up many cases recently so I could yet hear very soon.

benniebert

fletcher88 wrote: »

No it was Capita. I think. As I said it was a home visit and she was here for roughly 30 mins.

She told me she had dealt with many epilepsy cases too.



Interesting.

Is that just your own interpretation? Or is there actual substance behind that?

Thanks for the replies.

Still to here anything and it has been over a week since the home consultation. She said at that point it normally takes 2-3 weeks but they have cleared up many cases recently so I could yet hear very soon.

No it is based on facts. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/387981/pip-assessment-first-independent-review.pdf


And taken from the Guardian newspaper:


According to the statistics, PIP has been awarded to 51% of new claimants since April 2013.
Since October 2013, it has been granted in 72% of reassessment cases, namely people previously on DLA

Indie_Kid

fletcher88 wrote: »

No it was Capita. I think. As I said it was a home visit and she was here for roughly 30 mins.

She told me she had dealt with many epilepsy cases too.

This may explain why she wasn't there for that long.

Please let us know how you get on.

fletcher88

Indie_Kid wrote: »

This may explain why she wasn't there for that long.

Please let us know how you get on.

It is yeah, although I cannot help but think whether that is a positive or negative thing.

I will do, thanks

benniebert wrote: »

No it is based on facts.


And taken from the Guardian newspaper:


According to the statistics, PIP has been awarded to 51% of new claimants since April 2013.
Since October 2013, it has been granted in 72% of reassessment cases, namely people previously on DLA

Thanks

swagman

Don't panic if you do not hear a result for some weeks. The delay until recently was 26 weeks, now it is down to about 20 weeks, though there are variations to this.

Furthermore, don't give up if you are turned down. In that event you have one month from the date of the results letter to request "mandatory reconsideration". The results letter will explain why you have been turned down and you can respond to that by letter outlining which activities you feel have been wrongly assessed.

One of the improvements PIP has brought over DLA is that an attempt has been made to define what is meant by being able to perform an activity: the activity must be done safely, to a reasonable standard, in a reasonable time and it must be repeatable. So, for example, if a person can dress themselves but it takes 45 minutes, causes excessive pain and means they have to lie down for half an hour to receover - then PIP should score that in the claimants favour. And so on through all the daily living and mobility activities.

Most local Citizens Advice bureaux have specialist advisers who are experienced in completing PIP forms and helping people challenge decisions. CAB do a lot of this work and it can be a psychological boost to be face-to-face with an adviser who is 'on your side'. The CAB Adviceguide website has info on PIP and other benefits, including a link to a table of PIP descriptors with the scores given for each. It also has links to enable you to trace the nearest CAB.
Good luck!

fletcher88

swagman wrote: »

Don't panic if you do not hear a result for some weeks. The delay until recently was 26 weeks, now it is down to about 20 weeks, though there are variations to this.

Furthermore, don't give up if you are turned down. In that event you have one month from the date of the results letter to request "mandatory reconsideration". The results letter will explain why you have been turned down and you can respond to that by letter outlining which activities you feel have been wrongly assessed.

One of the improvements PIP has brought over DLA is that an attempt has been made to define what is meant by being able to perform an activity: the activity must be done safely, to a reasonable standard, in a reasonable time and it must be repeatable. So, for example, if a person can dress themselves but it takes 45 minutes, causes excessive pain and means they have to lie down for half an hour to receover - then PIP should score that in the claimants favour. And so on through all the daily living and mobility activities.

Most local Citizens Advice bureaux have specialist advisers who are experienced in completing PIP forms and helping people challenge decisions. CAB do a lot of this work and it can be a psychological boost to be face-to-face with an adviser who is 'on your side'. The CAB Adviceguide website has info on PIP and other benefits, including a link to a table of PIP descriptors with the scores given for each. It also has links to enable you to trace the nearest CAB.
Good luck!

Really appreciate that, thank you.

fletcher88

Right, news and good news!

I have NOT recieved the Daily living component, at any rate. So that is a little bit of a pity.

However, I HAVE recieved the mobility rate component - and the enhanced rate at that at £57 per week.

I am really pleased. I didn't expect it to be quite honest so it really is a plus. It has been awarded until Sept 2017 although I realise they have the right to look into this whenever they want.

What I do want to ask though, is my Mom (my carer) up until now from 2010, has always received carers allowance for me due to my DLA award from that point. However, it states on many directgov websites that the person she is caring for has to be getting the Daily living component, it says nothing about the mobility component.

Will that be taken into account? As I find it a little unfair as she has always quite rightly got it and it seems harsh being as I have been awarded PIP.

Thanks.