Agreed to sell car to aggressive buyer

Poppie68

OP chances are the fool is all big mouth and no trousers so won't turn up. As a precaution and peace of mind move it to another location, one that he won't find by having a look around...Stay in an don't answer the door that way if he does turn up and decides to take his anger out on your property you will be on hand to call the police.

daytona0

Zandoni wrote: »

I'm not assuming I'm doubting.

Well at least we have something in common then :beer:

daytona0

hollydays wrote: »

Daytona, I despair of your posts..

In fairness, I'm at the very least trying to offer some thoughts. You've just posted something completely irrelevant. If I'm wrong in any way then please share, as it might benefit the OP. Otherwise, please keep the thread on topic.

powerful_Rogue

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

No, the police tell him to stop. It's not up to the OP to ask.

No, in the first instance the OP needs to tell him to stop. Any further correspondence then becomes a course of conduct and then the police can get involved,

hollydays

daytona0 wrote: »

In fairness, I'm at the very least trying to offer some thoughts. You've just posted something completely irrelevant. If I'm wrong in any way then please share, as it might benefit the OP. Otherwise, please keep the thread on topic.

Share?

Well, this .some of your " thoughts"

"Also, we are taking a huge leap of faith in assuming that the OP is vulnerable to the point whereby they aren't physically able to look after themselves and be unable to sell a car properly. It is important to note that OP would very likely have a carer were his problems significantly affecting his performance in listing and selling a car, so you have to attribute some blame to the OP in ending up in this situation (either for not drawing upon his support network, or being of able mind to list the car but now using his condition as a get out clause). If the prospective buyer has been abusive then the OP should also report this to the police."

I can't even be bothered to highlight just how wrong most of your " thoughts " are.
To suggest the op is using his health condition as a get out clause is
Bizarre. And what has blame got to do with anything?
As for the , he should have got someone to stop him, well , I'm not aware the healthcare system provides 24 hour a day gofers. Health issues like this likely isolate people making support a scarcity for many.

daytona0

hollydays wrote: »

I can't even be bothered to highlight just how wrong most of your " thoughts " are.
To suggest the op is using his health condition as a get out clause is
Bizarre. And what has blame got to do with anything?
As for the , he should have got someone to stop him, well , I'm not aware the healthcare system provides 24 hour a day gofers. Health issues like this likely isolate people making support a scarcity for many.

Ok fair enough. I stand by what I said though.

- OP listed the car and nobody has seemingly given him input in this process (or if they have it has been useless!). It is therefore likely that OP acted as an independent individual for the sale of this car and they are therefore responsible for their actions (ie sending the email, not reporting the PB to social worker/friends/family/police) and any ensuing consequences.

- Given the above, one can easily ask the question why the OP can suddenly renege on the email due to "mental health issues" when the OP may not have bothered about his condition in the first place! He should be more careful in selling high value items if he is under care for more basic day to day tasks. It is a bit suspect and some less scrupulous individuals may be playing the card to help them clean up their mess (also the fact that he only sought help AFTER an email had been sent putting things in writing with the PB - hmmmm). I am 90% sure that it isn't the case here though, so my post was more speculation.

Also, you only wrote about the "controversial" part which is pretty disappointing! You have to read the whole post to appreciate the constructive advice given!

The PB is innocent until proven guilty, and OP needs to have this out with a third party at this stage. This includes police, family, friends or carers and they should be able to further assist. There is nothing much we can advise on the basis of limited information, aside from either hating on each other (on me) or trying to read between the lines. On that note, I wish you good luck OP in getting it resolved.

Laz123

Gavin83 wrote: »

It's extremely dishonest if you don't. Imagine if you agreed a price with someone, bought a train ticket to collect and they then told you it had now been sold.

You could argue it's bullying all you want but we don't know the correspondence that went on between the two and the OP agreed to the price. He had no way of knowing about the mental health problems and most wouldn't agree a price they weren't happy with. He probably just assumes he has a bargain.

I think the least the OP can do is refund the ticket, they are as much to blame as the person buying for the situation.

Why on earth should the OP pay for the ticket? How ridiculous! You want to buy something from a store, phone up and they say yes it's in stock, travel there and then they say sorry but it's now been sold. And you ask for your petrol money or train ticket money? Or On Freecycle the same scenario happens. Sheezzz...

N9eav

hoggy52uk wrote: »

Thanks so much for all the advice. I told him in an e-mail this morning what I felt had happened yesterday and that I was not going to sell him the car.

He has responded with 17 voicemails and 27 texts. He is threatening to come and find me, threatening physical violence

I have spoken to the police and texted him on their advice to ask him to stop his harassment, but to no effect. As the threats are now getting physical, the police are now on their way to take a statement

Thanks to you all for what I feel has been some real support when I needed it!

Good news!

Spicy_McHaggis

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

No, in the first instance the OP needs to tell him to stop. Any further correspondence then becomes a course of conduct and then the police can get involved,

Yet the legislation states the defendant knows or ought to know and makes no mention that the victim must tell them to stop. Out of interest where are you getting your information from?


If what you say is correct then the act isn't written to protect the most vulnerable who maybe incapable of telling an offender to stop.

bod1467

bod1467 wrote: »

That edit is probably more accurate.

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

Without a course of conduct there is no offence.

So you agree with the edit then (as that it what it amounts to).