Agreed to sell car to aggressive buyer

pinkshoes

I would ask the police to call him for you to see if that stops the harassment.

I would then email him saying that the car is no longer for sale at that price, as you felt pressured into selling at far lower than what the car is worth, and that you have contacted the police due to his constant threats.

Tell him that if he sends you a copy of his rail for Monday, you will refund it.

hollydays

I hope you have told the police about your mental health issues. You hopefully will get the support you need from the police when they visit. You are vulnerable by your own admission , and his aggressive practices should be stopped. Is he trading as a business, do you know?
I'm sure there would be advocacy services that could help you with issues like this in the future, but there are probably no worse sales to make than selling a car imho.

daytona0

Zandoni wrote: »

Yes I certainly do doubt it, the OP said the prospective buyer said he bought a ticket. He could easily be using that as an additional lever.

That involves assuming that OP has been 100% honest with the information provided. It is not inconceivable to suggest that OP may be using the idea of mental health issues as an additional lever to renege on a sale he has set up. As I said, either OP is a grown up who can handle their own business and do the normal thing (refuse sale, contact police RE: harassment) or they need some additional support from a care worker or family/friends in making larger sales. Sending the quoted email simply muddies the water, and in my eyes I see no reason why the prospective buyer WOULDN'T buy a train ticket! He has the proof that OP is happy for the meet to go ahead, so why would you insist on such an email in order to simply not turn up? Why should OP be allowed to get into such a situation and then tell a potential buyer that the email no longer matters and that he has to like it or lump it regarding the train fare...

marleyboy wrote:

Aaah, so we are to doubt the OPs authenticity when it comes to their own posts re vulnerability, but at the same time NOT doubt that of the aggressive buyer (who in all sense and purposes, OP has never met), merely because he claims he has bought a train ticket ?

Sounds a bit one sided to me.

Nope, in actuality you are being one sided because you are taking the OP's post at face value. Remember that we are all innocent until PROVEN guilty, and this is the same for the prospective buyer in this scenario... The only 'proof' we have is that the OP has sent him an email in which a meet was organised. Also, the extent to which the OP suffers mental health problems is not clearly defined so for all we know it could be as mild as a bit of anxiety/depression which should in no way stop him from seeking third party support (friends, family, police etc) if he was being intimidated.


As a side note, if he is vulnerable then I hope he gets the support he needs BUT he needs to actually arrange for that to happen! You can't expect the whole world to stop simply because you cry mental health issues when you get yourself into this sort of mess. It should have been done long before this, especially with the sale of an expensive item!

Spicy_McHaggis

Marktheshark wrote: »

The police can not act until you have asked them to stop harassment, once they ignore your request then its a police matter.

No, the police tell him to stop. It's not up to the OP to ask.

Zandoni

daytona0 wrote: »

That involves assuming that OP has been 100% honest with the information provided. It is not inconceivable to suggest that OP may be using the idea of mental health issues as an additional lever to renege on a sale he has set up. As I said, either OP is a grown up who can handle their own business and do the normal thing (refuse sale, contact police RE: harassment) or they need some additional support from a care worker or family/friends in making larger sales. Sending the quoted email simply muddies the water, and in my eyes I see no reason why the prospective buyer WOULDN'T buy a train ticket! He has the proof that OP is happy for the meet to go ahead, so why would you insist on such an email in order to simply not turn up? Why should OP be allowed to get into such a situation and then tell a potential buyer that the email no longer matters and that he has to like it or lump it regarding the train fare...!

I base my answers on what the OP writes, it's not my job to play detective.

If I was going on a train journey in the next couple of days I wouldn't buy the ticket early, I'd get it at the station.

daytona0

Zandoni wrote: »

I base my answers on what the OP writes, it's not my job to play detective.

If I was going on a train journey in the next couple of days I wouldn't buy the ticket early, I'd get it at the station.

Well, you are being a detective too by assuming that the prospective buyer (PB) would purchase a ticket on the day! PB has it in writing saying "This is to put in writing the agreement we made over the phone tonight, namely that I sell my Freelander (reg xxxx xxxx) to you for the sum of £x cash. I understand you will be here
to purchase on Monday 9th Feb.".

Given that PB has the above email he has no reason to assume that the deal is off and so a non refundable train ticket bought in advance may save him a few quid.

OP, in contrast, has mental health issues and (after re-checking his post) is under the care of a Psych. Why has he made the sale on his own if he believed that he was vulnerable? No offense but if he has people to look after him then he shouldn't be making large sales which may be influenced by his mental health. It is a bit in-congruent if you ask me... he has only sought help (from us!! and not even from his carers/friends/family!!) after an email has been sent inviting the PB to purchase the car!

I hope someone can offer him more information, but he may need to speak to someone in real life at this point (and not on this forum) because it is getting a bit messy....

hollydays

Daytona, I despair of your posts..

Zandoni

daytona0 wrote: »

Well, you are being a detective too by assuming that the prospective buyer (PB) would purchase a ticket on the day! PB has it in writing saying "This is to put in writing the agreement we made over the phone tonight, namely that I sell my Freelander (reg xxxx xxxx) to you for the sum of £x cash. I understand you will be here
to purchase on Monday 9th Feb.".

Given that PB has the above email he has no reason to assume that the deal is off and so a non refundable train ticket bought in advance may save him a few quid.

OP, in contrast, has mental health issues and (after re-checking his post) is under the care of a Psych. Why has he made the sale on his own if he believed that he was vulnerable? No offense but if he has people to look after him then he shouldn't be making large sales which may be influenced by his mental health. It is a bit in-congruent if you ask me... he has only sought help (from us!! and not even from his carers/friends/family!!) after an email has been sent inviting the PB to purchase the car!

I hope someone can offer him more information, but he may need to speak to someone in real life at this point (and not on this forum) because it is getting a bit messy....

I'm not assuming I'm doubting.

Poppie68

Daytona your not the potential buyer by any chance You seem to be getting rather irate and hot under the collar..:D

jjlandlord

Marktheshark wrote: »

Dont listen to the fools telling you you have a "contract" with him.
Absolute rubbish, one is one of these free man nutters that hangs round here with interpretative legal babble.

hoggy52uk, this is a public, anonymous forum so clearly it may not be easy for you to detect who is actually a 'fool' or a 'free man nutter'.

One thing that might help is to see whose posts are actually supported instead of just being insulting to others.

If in doubt or unsure, you should always seek advice from someone you know by name with a proven knowledge in the field.
For legal matters, ideally that is a lawyer.