Potential benefit fraud

Mensch

Poppie68 wrote: »

The mum would be none the wiser and wouldn't now if an error had been made.....so the OP still wouldnt be sure the kids were not being claimed by the father....

The mother would know the children were on her claim and that, as a result, they cannot be on anyone else's. It's really that simple.


If that's 'none the wiser', fair enough.

Poppie68

Mensch wrote: »

The mother would know the children were on her claim and that, as a result, they cannot be on anyone else's. It's really that simple.


If that's 'none the wiser', fair enough.

What I'm saying is mistakes are made....3 years ago my cousin got custody of her grandson, she claimed tax credits for him....18 months later it was found that her daughter was claiming him as well, and the mothers claim was made 2 months after the grandmother had started receiving hers.
Its not always that simple!

Poppie68

blondebubbles wrote: »

As already said, the mum would know because she would be sent a letter of someone else tried to claim and the system would show this as a verification failure.

As above .....My cousin only found out through her other daughter.....She called TC and informed them and both claims were stopped....The cousin had to wait 4 months for the claim to be sorted and her daughter escaped further action due to severe mental hhealth problems.

Poppie68

The child, grandmother and mother all had the same surname.....I suppose like everything else the system is or was at the time capable of error.

[Deleted User]

[quote=[Deleted User];discussion/5168686]Hi guys

First post here so go easy on me!

I'm not really one to moan, but benefit fraud is a massive pet hate of mine how some people get away with it! Anyway, my partners ex-boyfriend, of whom they had 2 children together, is currently living rent-free at his parent's house and works full time earning typically around £1000 month take home.

My girlfriend has the children full time, in which he sees them 2 nights every other week, so 4 nights in total per month.

Anyway, he has started receiving working tax credits, £160 a week! Which is extortionate for someone living rent-free at their parents house. My only conclusion is that he has said the 2 children are living with him.

Unless I am completely wrong and he is eligible for £160 a week, but that is more then my girlfriend is getting when she has full custody of the children and works full time!

I have reported him to benefit fraud, but will they ever actually take any action?

Thanks [/QUOTE]

i hate tax evaders/avoiders/fraudsters who funnily enough account for many billions more than benefit fraud
next.....

[Deleted User]

[quote=[Deleted User];67640067]Wow jump on the bandwagon quickly!

I know as he still has his bank statements sent to her address, so she has obviously seen.

But thank you for the useful tips so far, I will forward it on to her.[/QUOTE]

so she opens his mail?illegally?

NYM

woodbine wrote: »

so she opens his mail?illegally?

Opening someone else’s mail is allowed in certain circumstances under the Postal Services Act 2000. It is only an offence if you open someone else’s mail ‘without reasonable excuse’ or if you ‘intend to act to another’s detriment'. For example, if you are receiving bank statements/cards in someone else’s name then you should act on that immediately. You should tell the sender, either by returning it marked “not known at this address” or by opening the mail and calling any number provided within. The “reasonable excuse” for opening such items would then be that you were helping to prevent fraud against the companies involved.

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/consumer_e/consumer_post_e/consumer_problems_with_post_e/consumer_problems_with_post_delivery_e/youre_receiving_someone_elses_mail.htm

londonTiger

woodbine wrote: »

i hate tax evaders/avoiders/fraudsters who funnily enough account for many billions more than benefit fraud
next.....

tax avoidance is legal, tax evasion is illegal.

FBaby

What I'm saying is mistakes are made....3 years ago my cousin got custody of her grandson, she claimed tax credits for him....18 months later it was found that her daughter was claiming him as well, and the mothers claim was made 2 months after the grandmother had started receiving hers.
Its not always that simple!

I do recall reading posts here when this did happen that's why I wondered about it. It might be rare, but not impossible. We have ran out of logic reasons as to why this man could be entitled to such an amount from the info we were given, hence having to consider system errors.

Mensch

Poppie68 wrote: »

What I'm saying is mistakes are made....3 years ago my cousin got custody of her grandson, she claimed tax credits for him....18 months later it was found that her daughter was claiming him as well, and the mothers claim was made 2 months after the grandmother had started receiving hers.
Its not always that simple!

Unfortunately, your cousin's experience is irrelevant to this matter.


We all know mistakes can be made but the advice the mother in this case would have been given, if she asked, is that such a scenario is impossible, and that is the reason she 'knows' the children are not on the ex-partner's claim.


That surely is fairly simple.