Landlord and Land Owner refusing to help with PCN

The_Slithy_Tove

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it looks to me like
* You are renting a property, i.e. you don't own the leasehold
* You have only had sight of the rental agreement, and not the lease
Your landlord will be the leaseholder, i.e. will have the lease. That lease may or may not have something explicit in it about parking and designated parking spaces. You need to get hold of that, which may be hard if your landlord isn't taking a suitable interest.

You could try asking a neighbour who IS a leaseholder if you can take a peek at their lease - they're probably all pretty similar.

WarsawUK

I have requested a copy from my neighbour but I think he rents too, is there anything else I can do in the meantime to help? Should I send another angry letter to the landowner (who is the residential manager of the block) or my landlord? aren't they both legally liable too?

Hot_Bring

Dear Landowner,

Thank you for your recent statement that you do not get involved in any parking disputes. I feel it only fair to point out that as the landowner who has appointed agents, or indeed allowed a managing agent to appoint agents, you are personally liable whether you like it or not.

Unless you wish to find yourself embroiled in a court case I suggest to take up your legal responsibilities and deal with the problem. In this case that means getting the aforementioned tickets cancelled.

You can not dispense your legal obligations by just saying you don't get involved. Now please deal with it.

Kind regards,

A harassed tenant that will call YOU to court if this ends up there !

WarsawUK

Edited for privacy

Hot_Bring

Looks good to me. You could go all detailed and technical but it tends to dilute the point. Go for it.

bod1467

How is your tenancy/rental arrangement with your landlord? Bear in mind that throwing the "court" ball at him may lead to a breakdown in relationship, so be sure that your agreement is clear and he can't decide to just chuck you out.

(I'm not trying to stop you sending him that letter - far from it. I'm just making sure you're aware of possible consequences).

WarsawUK

I'm only planning on sending this letter to the landowner, my landlord is very nice so I don't want to ruin that

bod1467

Good point well made. (I overlooked that you said landowner).

Coupon-mad

In summary: I have until February to fork out £700

You are aware you don't have to fork out anything and that DRP letters are not a real 'Letter before Claim' just a threat from a debt collector? It could have been ignored but for £700 it's possible PCM (not DRP!) may try a very rare court claim. Even if they do, DO NOT Pay them, come back here.

Just want to be sure you weren't thinking that if you get more letters that you have to pay because you don't, and DRP cannot start legal action as they are not a solicitor.

The_Deep

That letter does not impress me at all. From what you have told me you have no parking rights at all, you need to get you landlord (not the landowner) to engage.

You are entitled to "quiet enjoyment" of you property whether it says so in your AST or not, and your parking rights need to be set out in your AST. You are at present a long way from sending threatening letters, do some research.