Would not bother being a landlord again...

Pixie5740

What kind of responses did you expect the OP would get after he started a thread !!!!!ing about his tenants, who he's been quite happy collecting rent from for years, whilst displaying complete ignorance on how to end a tenancy?

We'll just need to agree to disagree on the harassment one. If my LL turned out of the blue I'd feel obliged to let them in even though I wouldn't want to. I'd feel harassed.

jjlandlord

Pixie5740 wrote: »

If my KL turned out of the blue I'd feel obliged to let them in even though I wouldn't want to. I'd feel harassed.

Now this is turning into a bad faith contest...

45002

For Reference

Protection from Eviction Act 1977

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1977/43
Part I Unlawful Eviction and Harassment

Criminal law

Part 1 (3A) (a)

he does acts likely to interfere with the peace or comfort of the residential occupier or members of his household

Civil Law

Part 1 (3C) (5)

Nothing in this section shall be taken to prejudice any liability or remedy to which a person guilty of an offence there under may be subject in civil proceedings.

So criminal or civil action or both could apply to a LL who keeps going around uninvited.

IMHO.

Guest101

martin1959 wrote: »

Whether something is harassment or not, is to a degree, subjective. I doubt one visit in 24 months constitutes harassment...lol


they will not be there until June/July if they want a reference....they have rented for the past 6 years and have a history of excellent references, hence we chose them. I doubt they will want to ruin that.

1: yes they can live ANY way they choose. Ur contract is meaningless in the way u think that u can claim from the deposit if they smoke there! IT ALL DEPENDS HOW THE LEAVE THE PROPERTY.

2: that's why I said 'do it again'

3: if they want to park the caravan there, they can

4: google libel / slander. There'll be there until a court or they decide - NOT YOU

5: another amateur LL.

GwylimT

kinger101 wrote: »

This gets rather subjective though. In my view, other than an emergency, there are no circumstances which call for it.

I completely agree, my tenants have been in my property for eight years, despitr us getting on well and being sometimes invited round for a coffee I would never go around without giving plenty notice and receiving permission.

duchy

I threw a Southern Water employee out of the house the other day - He started by making comments about how amazing it was a woman knew where the stopcock was .......and then went on to tell me how all Poles were thieves (they *all* doctor the water meters and worse in his uninvited opinion)........ I pointed out that although I'm British born my grandparents were Polish and I found his comments offensive and he needed to leave. He refused - and I had to tell him twice.

As far as I am concerned his behaviour was harassing as well as crass- the definition by law agrees with me -but his opinion was he was "just expressing his opinions" and had done nothing wrong.

Just because you don't intend to harass someone doesn't mean you aren't doing it -and breaking the law.

Guest101

jjlandlord wrote: »

This thread starts to stink so much of an anti-landlord witch-hunt that I feel harassed.
I may report you all for criminal offences.



Could we stop with this, please?

If you feel harassed- please leave the thread and take reasonable actions not to return.

Guest101

duchy wrote: »

I threw a Southern Water employee out of the house the other day - He started by making comments about how amazing it was a woman knew where the stopcock was .......and then went on to tell me how all Poles were thieves ........ I pointed out that although I'm British born my grandparents were Polish and I found his comments offensive and he needed to leave. He refused - and I had to tell him twice.

As far as I am concerned his behaviour was harassing as well as crass- the definition by law agrees with me -but his opinion was he was "just expressing his opinions" and had done nothing wrong.

Just because you don't intend to harass someone doesn't mean you aren't doing it -and breaking the law.

On what grounds did he refuse?!

jjlandlord

45002 wrote: »

So criminal or civil action or both could apply to a LL who keeps going around uninvited.

Could we stop with this, please? Really.
Too many people have 'issues' on here, it seems...

martin1959: If you wish to learn more about the letting business or discuss the topic with sane adults I can only suggest that you find specialised and professional forums...

Good luck.

martin1959

I am guessing most of the comments on here are from tenants so I suppose I should expect little sympathy, not that I am asking for it, but it beggars belief how many assumptions are being made.


The let has been managed throughout by a well establish lettings agency. Of course the deposit was handled in accordance with legislation. They even voluntarily put down a higher deposit as we gave them permission to keep a dog (which is apparently less of a problem than the children!)


Who said the tenants are DSS? I know what the tenant does for a living, and I can guess his income is well in excess of £50k PA.


I would think to most tenants, an on going good reference is important. Yes it could be forged, but our agency insisted on bank statements showing the previous rent payee, and checked it matched the reference. In our area, property rents so quickly, there is no need to settle for tenants who cannot provide quality references.


Who said we have a mortgage on the property, I didn't.