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Cutting out sugar from my diet. Has anyone else done this (or IQS)?

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  • brook2jack
    brook2jack Posts: 4,563 Forumite
    Actually there is a huge difference in the way sugar is available in whole fruit and juices. In whole fruit the sugar is contained within cell walls and the roughage pulp and pips slow the take up of sugar , this means it is not as readily available as in liquidised form. This has huge significance varying from rates of tooth decay to control of diabetes eg http://www.nhs.uk/news/2013/08August/Pages/fruit-may-lower-diabetes-risk-while-juice-may-raise-it.aspx

    Nutritionally there is no difference between "natural" sugars in fruit and refined white sugar both are broken down to glucose and both cause the same health problems when not used in moderation, however whole fruit may have other nutrients which help to make fruit a healthier choice.So it is salutory to see the sugar in fruits in terms of spoons or cubes of sugar
    http://www.sugarstacks.com/fruits.htm


    However you are quite right the amount of sugar in fruit has increased massively in recent years , by up to 50% in a decade in apples. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-99733/Why-apple-day-wont-dentist-away.html

    There are calls to completely remove fruit juice/smoothies as an acceptable one of the five a day because nutritionally not much better than coke which they are replacing
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/07/smoothies-fruit-juices-new-health-risk
  • Inazuma
    Inazuma Posts: 447 Forumite
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    brook2jack wrote: »
    Actually there is a huge difference in the way sugar is available in whole fruit and juices. In whole fruit the sugar is contained within cell walls and the roughage pulp and pips slow the take up of sugar , this means it is not as readily available as in liquidised form. This has huge significance varying from rates of tooth decay to control of diabetes eg http://www.nhs.uk/news/2013/08August/Pages/fruit-may-lower-diabetes-risk-while-juice-may-raise-it.aspx

    Nutritionally there is no difference between "natural" sugars in fruit and refined white sugar both are broken down to glucose and both cause the same health problems when not used in moderation, however whole fruit may have other nutrients which help to make fruit a healthier choice.So it is salutory to see the sugar in fruits in terms of spoons or cubes of sugar
    http://www.sugarstacks.com/fruits.htm


    However you are quite right the amount of sugar in fruit has increased massively in recent years , by up to 50% in a decade in apples. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-99733/Why-apple-day-wont-dentist-away.html

    There are calls to completely remove fruit juice/smoothies as an acceptable one of the five a day because nutritionally not much better than coke which they are replacing
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/07/smoothies-fruit-juices-new-health-risk


    Well, re your first paragraph - that's not quite what I was saying, but we'll agree to disagree. However, I do feel it's wrong to put fruit smoothies in the same category as coke - you can't seriously believe they are 'nutritionally not much better'. Really??
  • brook2jack
    brook2jack Posts: 4,563 Forumite
    The tide has turned against fruit juice and smoothies , the advice from many quarters is to limit them severely , this is a quote from the following article

    "It is not just tooth decay but there is increasing scientific evidence that regular sugary drink consumption is associated with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes and heart disease, independent of body weight, suggesting we are all vulnerable,” said Dr Aseem Malhotra, Cardiologist, Action on Sugar.
    “Fruit juice and smoothies should not be part of a healthy balanced diet.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11221228/Fruit-drinks-aimed-at-children-contain-more-sugar-than-Coca-Cola.html
  • brook2jack
    brook2jack Posts: 4,563 Forumite
    Fruit juices contribute almost as much sugar to a child's diet in the UK as sweets

    While guidelines state that no more that 10% of a person’s daily energy or calorie intake should be made up of sugar, at present, children aged 4 to 10 years are consuming up to 50% more than this. Children aged 4 to 10 get:

    17% of their daily sugar from soft drinks
    17% from biscuits, buns, cakes, pastries and fruit pies
    14% from confectionery
    13% from fruit juice
    8% from breakfast cereals
  • WantToBeSE
    WantToBeSE Posts: 7,729 Forumite
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    Morning :)


    Nice to see a debate going on ;) Its always good to see different points of view. Just please remember to be respectful of others.


    I personally don't buy (or drink) fruit juices, as they contain very high levels of sugar. Plus, as its just the juice you don't get the fibre to help absorption.
    Anyway, that's enough of that.


    Guess what I'm having for breakfast? LOL, granola and yogurt again! I am seriously addicted to this stuff :D


    I am going to be trying the IQS breakfast casserole tomorrow. For those of you who don't have the book, this is the recipe:


    - Coconut oil/Butter/Ghee for greasing
    - 3 turnips (peeled)/2 swedes/1 large sweet potato (I will use the sweet potato in mine)
    - 2 sausages/large handful of minced pork or beef
    - 3 spring onions, chopped
    - 4 eggs, beaten.


    -Preheat oven to 190 (Gas 5)
    -Grease a small glass or ceramic baking dish
    -Grate the turnips/swede/sweet potato (using a food processor is a good cheat for this)
    -If using the sausages, remove the meat and discard the casing. (if using mined meat/sausagemeat, just tear of small lumps).
    -Brown the meat with a little oil in a large hot frying pan until not quite cooked through, breaking into small pieces with a spoon.
    -Toss in the rest of the ingredients and stir, then transfer into your baking dish.
    -Bake for 45 mins


    Voila! I just want to remind everyone that this isn't my recipe, it comes from the IQS book (don't want to get into copyright troubles!).
  • Inazuma
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    edited 25 January 2015 at 8:07PM
    WantToBeSE wrote: »
    Morning :)


    Guess what I'm having for breakfast? LOL, granola and yogurt again! I am seriously addicted to this stuff :D




    Swopping one addiction for another! At least it's a sugar-free one, but I know what you mean, it is delicious. I'll be interested to hear how you get on with the breakfast casserole, funny how some foods seem out of place at certain times. Swede, in the morning? But I'm always keen on new ideas - so sick of eggs!


    Are you trying to lose weight or just eat more healthily?
  • WantToBeSE
    WantToBeSE Posts: 7,729 Forumite
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    Inazuma wrote: »
    Swopping one addiction for another! At least it's a sugar-free one, but I know what you mean, it is delicious. I'll be interested to hear how you get on with the breakfast casserole, funny how some foods seem out of place at certain times. Swede, in the morning? But I'm always keen on new ideas - so sick of eggs!


    Are you trying to lose weight or just eat more healthily?



    I know, swede at breakfast sounds odd I have to say! I might have to leave that until next weekend though, as I don't have time in the morning during the week.


    I am trying to be healthier mainly. I want to get away from needing that sugar 'hit' every few hours. I don't like that I feel addicted to it, and eat it (chocolate mainly) when I don't even want to!


    I have been reading about what sugar (Fructose to be more exact, which is what I am referring to when I say 'sugar' on this thread) does to you, the side effects etc, and its not nice. There are many many diseases and illness that have been linked to sugar.


    The old 'fat is bad' message conveyed by the governments and medical companies for the past 50 years (or more) is wrong, I believe that wholeheartedly. I believe the culprit of obesity is sugar, not fat.


    if you (or anyone) is interested you can look up 'Sugar, the Bitter Truth' on youtube and watch a great lecture that explains it, or you can read about it. I'd recommend 'Sweet Poison' by David Gillespie.
  • Inazuma
    Inazuma Posts: 447 Forumite
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    WantToBeSE wrote: »


    The old 'fat is bad' message conveyed by the governments and medical companies for the past 50 years (or more) is wrong, I believe that wholeheartedly. I believe the culprit of obesity is sugar, not fat.


    if you (or anyone) is interested you can look up 'Sugar, the Bitter Truth' on youtube and watch a great lecture that explains it, or you can read about it. I'd recommend 'Sweet Poison' by David Gillespie.



    Thanks, I will check these out.
  • WantToBeSE
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    Morning All :)


    Just for a change, I am having avocado on toast for breakfast this morning :) I just mash the avocado up, mix in a squeeze of lemon juice and a bit of black pepper and then spread it on the toast.


    Off to work in a bit, taking a small bag of nuts with me. I always do this, as it stops me popping into the local shop to get a snack :)
  • Slinky
    Slinky Posts: 11,035 Forumite
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    My OH and I went onto a LCHF (Low carb High fat) eating plan last year and haven't looked back. Both of us have lost over a stone and feel so much better for it. I'm now at the sort of weight I passed through in my teens (I'm 50) and have lost about 5 inches off my waist.

    If you're knocking out sugar, you perhaps should consider reducing carbs, as carbs get broken down into sugars.

    Check out 'Escape the diet trap' by Dr John Briffa, it's really turned our lives around. We eat well and are never hungry, we've just cut out the foods which put the weight on, and increased the fat we eat. Which sounds mad until you read the true science behind it.

    Oh, and I eat chocolate most days now, a couple of squares of dark chocolate after dinner.
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