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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • Moby
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    edited 20 February 2016 at 9:36AM
    Great news from a real potician.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35616768

    The future looks rosy.

    Deluded. Its all choreographed nonsense. He struggled long and hard and the other leaders pretended to give him a hard time so that he can make it look like he wrested something of value out of the evil EU. He cant sell it to half his own cabinet though......... who will be campaigning against him. He's an absolute disaster and is doing two things very quickly..........ensuring Scotland will go by his lack of statesmanship and putting this country's future at risk by Brexit! All the other leaders were thinking.....give the poor chap something to take back so the British will stop moaning and we can get on with dealing with real issues like Putin and Syria.
  • Moby wrote: »
    Deluded. Its all choreographed nonsense. He struggled long and hard and the other leaders pretended to give him a hard time so that he can make it look like he wrested something of value out of the evil EU. He cant sell it to half his own cabinet though......... who will be campaigning against him. He's an absolute disaster and is doing two things very quickly..........ensuring Scotland will go by his lack of statesmanship and putting this country's future at risk by Brexit! All the other leaders were thinking.....give the poor chap something to take back so the British will stop moaning and we can get on with dealing with real issues like Putin and Syria.

    The gushing from the Tory owned press over this is nauseating. Cameron has secured the sum total of nothing over this. And he didn't secure it last night, he secured it over the last two years as he has stumbled his way around the EU upsetting people.
  • Thrugelmir
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    The gushing from the Tory owned press over this is nauseating. Cameron has secured the sum total of nothing over this. And he didn't secure it last night, he secured it over the last two years as he has stumbled his way around the EU upsetting people.

    You'll have an opportunity to express your opinion later as we will all have.
  • Thrugelmir wrote: »
    You'll have an opportunity to express your opinion later as we will all have.

    I am really not sure how I will vote. I used to be committed the ideal of Europe but it is becoming a mockery of democracy and is clearly far more interested in subjugating national and individual liberty interest in favour of corporate profiteering.

    Then again the Leave side are no better whatsoever. Their just want to do the same thing here without Brussels interfering.
  • elantan
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    edited 20 February 2016 at 10:38AM
    Generali wrote: »
    Why should it bovver ya? You 'ave your accent and I 'ave mine. I don't see any Barney there china.

    You may think me writing in Cockney is ridiculous. It doesn't matter to me.


    where have I said it ridiculous? Dry yer eyes mate ... won't reply to anymore of your attempts at arguing or sympathy gaining no more Gen ... I think we can see what your up to and trying to do

    Now back to Fiscal framework ... I'm liking the new Swinney, he seems to have come into his own with Nicola in charge, I doubt he would buckle but I am worried incase he does give something away ... I do trust him though ... not many politicians I do trust but he is 1 of them :)
  • Thrugelmir
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    I am really not sure how I will vote. I used to be committed the ideal of Europe but it is becoming a mockery of democracy and is clearly far more interested in subjugating national and individual liberty interest in favour of corporate profiteering.

    Then again the Leave side are no better whatsoever. Their just want to do the same thing here without Brussels interfering.

    There'll be plenty in the news in the coming months. The EU as a whole faces some difficult times. Not least the migrant crisis and the impact on Germany. Nor the financial health of the larger EU banks.
  • elantan
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    edited 20 February 2016 at 12:19PM
    just a little reminder.
    YOU YES VOTERS LOST.
    Stop trying to be the mouthpiece of the majority of Scots.

    Let`s please have another referendum as soon as possible or are you deluded nationalists scared of the outcome?


    We lost and yet the behaviour of the no camp ( including 19th September George Square) is more like they have lost ;)


    Another referendum will happen don't you worry ;)
  • CLAPTON
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    elantan wrote: »
    We lost and yet the behaviour of the no camp ( including 19th September George Square) is more like they have lost ...


    Another referendum will happen don't you worry ;)

    wouldn't it be wonderful if Nicola could have scottish voting papers so you could vote :

    YES to leaving the UK which gives Scotland loads of money
    and YES to joining the EU which charges Scotland loads of money

    but one can but dream.
  • elantan
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    So the date has been set then 23rd June .. thats really respectful to the people of London, Wales, Ireland and Scotland

    Spose we'd better prepare for the whole sidelining of those elections so that the EU one can take centre stage ... you could be mistaken in believing it was designed that way ;)
  • elantan wrote: »
    So the date has been set then 23rd June .. thats really respectful to the people of London, Wales, Ireland and Scotland

    Spose we'd better prepare for the whole sidelining of those elections so that the EU one can take centre stage ... you could be mistaken in believing it was designed that way ;)

    Oh for heavens sakes, the importance and impact to the nation of an EU referendum is far greater than some local/regional elections, so for once can we stop with the petty grievance mongering.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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