Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Shakethedisease

Here's the reason for the Scottish media hysterics over the Forth Road Bridge.

UK Elections ‏@Election_UK 5 hrs5 hours ago Our forecast for #sp16 shows SNP will win 67 constituencies. In 2nd, the Conservatives on 5, with Labour on 0 seats.

And remember that 'whoooooo Scotland will be kicked out of the EU so there thing' ? Two polls tonight..ICM and Survation.

Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 1 hr1 hour ago @britainelects: EU referendum poll: Remain: 40% (-2) Leave: 42% (+2) (via Survation / early Dec) 10k person sample size.

Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 1 hr1 hour ago EU referendum poll: Remain: 42% (-1) Leave: 41% (+2) (via ICM)

There will definitely be a big NHS crisis in Scotland over the next few days. As well as Swinney being the worst finance minister since time began.

Shakethedisease

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Who said this in March 2014?

Looks rather foolish now........

Salmond ? My goodness, don't tell me be believed government statistics back in March 2014 ? No-one else does these days. He's stated several times that the Treasury leader ( McPherson ) stating after the referendum... that he willingly threw impartiality out the window during the campaign shocked and disappointed him greatly.

I'm sure he does feel a bit foolish for trusting them. He said so in his book. But Ruth ( yes only 1,800 people voted for me in Scotland but am Tory leader anyway ) Davidson's bias shouldn't be presented as in anyway 'balanced' either. She presents those stats as 'Salmond's dodgy oil predictions.. when they clearly aren't.

Sadly, this all now means that a huge big swathe of Scottish voters don't believe any Treasury figures coming out of Westminster anymore either. They can't be trusted to be impartial, not when they've already admitted that when it comes to Scotland... they won't always be.

Leanne1812

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Here's the reason for the Scottish media hysterics over the Forth Road Bridge.


And remember that 'whoooooo Scotland will be kicked out of the EU so there thing' ? Two polls tonight..ICM and Survation.



There will definitely be a big NHS crisis in Scotland over the next few days. As well as Swinney being the worst finance minister since time began.

Scotland's looking bright & sunny for next year

Wee bit chilly in the borders though.

All good :beer:

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Here's the reason for the Scottish media hysterics over the Forth Road Bridge.

Hmm. Not very forthcoming about their methodology are they?

Anglo-Scot ‏@FreakNotGeek 6h6 hours ago
@Election_UK From what data?

UK Elections ‏@Election_UK 6h6 hours ago
@FreakNotGeek Latest polls, and on the ground data collected, as well as by-election results

elantan

I've notoce Ruth seems to be gaining in popularity ... admittedly that's not hard when the person your outwitting is Kezia .... but it's still a bit concerning tbh

Generali

elantan wrote: »

I've notoce Ruth seems to be gaining in popularity ... admittedly that's not hard when the person your outwitting is Kezia .... but it's still a bit concerning tbh

Imagine Scots people voting Tory. At this rate Scotland will have to leave Scotland, innit.

Tromking

Shakethedisease wrote: »

And remember that 'whoooooo Scotland will be kicked out of the EU so there thing' ? Two polls tonight..ICM and Survation.

The thought of a post Brexit indyref and Scotland still voting to stay within the worlds most successful Union is immense. I love how the Nats think it would be an absolute given that Scotland would choose to leave if the wider UK voted for Brexit. Cue another meaningless poll from Shakey!😀

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Tromking wrote: »

I love how the Nats think it would be an absolute given that Scotland would choose to leave if the wider UK voted for Brexit.

I am probably the most ardent supporter of Scotland staying within the Union on this board and my support for that is based primarily on the economic benefits.

It would be just as mad for the UK to leave Europe as it would be for Scotland to leave the UK however.... So at that point all bets would be off.

Scotland outwith the UK today would suffer a radically lower standard of living and a lot of needless pain.

Unemployment would soar, people's incomes and wealth would decline, and their taxes and cost of living would rise.

But if the UK left the EU we'd all suffer that fate.

At that point the choice between staying and leaving is far less clear cut.

Even for me...

Rinoa

Shakethedisease wrote: »

It was the same speech, reported widely and er 'interpreted' by several newspapers and tv programmes. Not just the Scotsman as it was Cameron's first ever cabinet meeting in Scotland. Seems there was a 200bn oil 'deal' on the cards... but only if Scots voted No.. which they did.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/david-cameron-north-sea-oil-scottish-independence

Notice there's a 'promise' there ? Or was it a lie ? Deliberately misleading voters perhaps ? Or mabye you, string et al could just admit that Cameron and BetterTogether were no better at oil prices than the SNP were at the time ?

Or the Daily Mail if you prefer ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566562/Cameron-accused-flying-Scotland-Scare-Force-One-desperate-Salmond-complains-PM-not-meet-him.html


Yes well... What deal ?

You are very adept at missing the point, and raising one we weren't discussing, in every reply.

We were discussing lies. Alex Salmond and the SNP deliberately overstated Scotland's prospects on oil.

David Cameron said there was potential but warned of the downsides should the oil price fall.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Rinoa wrote: »

You are very adept at missing the point, and raising one we weren't discussing, in every reply.

We were discussing lies.

Alex Salmond and the SNP deliberately overstated Scotland's prospects on oil.

David Cameron said there was potential but warned of the downsides should the oil price fall.

It's tremendous isn't it?

You point out where the SNP failed - she changes the topic.

You provide proof - she compares it as being no different to some Labour failure dredged up from a decade ago.

It's almost as if Shakey is determined to establish that the SNP are just as bad as Labour.