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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • Generali
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    elantan wrote: »
    Ha ha ha ha


    The SNP can really never do right in some people eyes even when they do it consistently

    I fought you ain't a SNP supporter guv. Cor blimey, stone the crows an' no mistake.
  • Leanne1812
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    .string. wrote: »
    Transport Scotland -The national transport agency for Scotland, delivering the Scottish Government's vision for transport

    Hmmmm

    Leanne - 2010 was a time ago and in the meantime the relevant budget was cut. To be effective monitoring has to be frequent enough to keep pace with what is being measured.

    It was a long time ago. This is in response to the graph Hamish posted.

    Was monitoring decreased?

    Given the reasons I posted about disruption & economic impact was the decision made, with hindsight being such a wonderful thing, the wrong one?
  • Leanne1812
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    Generali wrote: »
    Hahaha.

    The SNP really can do no wrong in some people's eyes even when they have clearly screwed things up.

    Given I posted the reasons why, valid reasons, I fail to see what is so funny.

    Must be the best retort you've got :)
  • .string.
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    It was a long time ago. This is in response to the graph Hamish posted.

    Was monitoring decreased?

    Given the reasons I posted about disruption & economic impact was the decision made, with hindsight being such a wonderful thing, the wrong one?


    On the last point, I presume you mean decreasing the maintenance budget and not replacing that section, yes it would appear so. If planned the disruption would have been less - see Hannah's recent post.

    Was monitoring decreased? --- it is clear that it was insufficient because additional structural monitoring has now prooved necessary; whether it was decreased is not known by me, but clearly a reduced maintenance budget makes that moot. Keeping fingers crossed is not a substitute for good management.
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  • Generali
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    Given I posted the reasons why, valid reasons, I fail to see what is so funny.

    Must be the best retort you've got :)

    You're clutching at straws.
  • Leanne1812 wrote: »
    The work that was being considered in 2010 was prompted by concern about another part of the truss end link, not the part that is now cracked.

    But it would have replaced the part that is now cracked.

    This was an avoidable failure.

    Simple as that.

    Works to replace this part had already gone to tender, the tender was cancelled because of budget cuts, those documents are public and have already been posted here.

    Why try to deny the blindingly obvious?

    SNP budget cuts have caused this crisis.

    And the unplanned emergency nature of it at the worst time of year has made the consequences far worse than they would have been with a scheduled repair.
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  • Generali
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    Why try to deny the blindingly obvious?

    Because anything that the SNP does requires unquestioning support.
  • Leanne1812
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    You know Hamish has a point. I accept that a gamble was made that has turned out to be costly & extremely inconvenient. The timing is bad too but I still feel the reasons given are valid and acceptable.

    The maintenance budget was decreased. I accept that. I suppose the question is why? Would it be to help fund the new bridge? I'm not sure.....maybe someone else can clarify.

    It just seems unwarranted all this criticism.

    I'll ask again, what should have been done differently? As far as I understand it the plan was to carry out the repairs next year when the new bridge would ease any problems.
  • Leanne1812
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    Generali wrote: »
    Because anything that the SNP does requires unquestioning support.


    Your posts are so witty tonight.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    edited 13 December 2015 at 11:57PM
    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    You know Hamish has a point. I accept that a gamble was made that has turned out to be costly & extremely inconvenient. The timing is bad too

    I'll agree with all of that.
    The maintenance budget was decreased. I accept that. I suppose the question is why?

    We don't (yet) know but at the rate documents are being leaked I rather suspect we will soon.

    At the end of the day it all comes down to priorities.

    Keeping vital transport infrastructure from failing should be pretty much at the top of any list of priorities for government. Clearly that was not the case here.
    It just seems unwarranted all this criticism.

    SNP supporters have gone to extraordinary lengths to build a facade of 'competency' around the party in general but Sturgeon in particular.

    Many of us would disagree.

    And given Sturgeon was the minister in charge of infrastructure from 2012 to 2014 she would have been directly involved in some of these decisions.
    I'll ask again, what should have been done differently? .

    Not cutting the budget for the repairs to replace the part that failed would have been a good start.
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