Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Leanne1812

.string. wrote: »

:beer:

It's a devolved matter, all under the SNP Government's "control".

... and still the excuses keep coming. ..." See no evil, hear no ...." etc.

Balanced :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: --- I've noticed that admitting failings is not exactly a yearly occurrence.

According to your good self and particularly Shakey, the buck stops well before the person in charge, all in the best traditions if the SNP no doubt.

But keep it up, it all helps the SNP image.

I didn't insinuate it wasn't devolved. Did you read shakes posts? Did you fob them off as nonsense? Of course you did

Balanced :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

:beer:

It's a devolved matter, all under the SNP Government's "control".

... and still the excuses keep coming. ..." See no evil, hear no ...." etc.

Balanced :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: --- I've noticed that admitting failings is not exactly a yearly occurrence.

According to your good self and particularly Shakey, the buck stops well before the person in charge, all in the best traditions if the SNP no doubt.

But keep it up, it all helps the SNP image.

It's nothing to do with bucks stopping. It's the complete over egging of every pudding to destruction 24/7 in the Scottish media. We actually have newspapers today doing full page stories about people having 'to stand' on train journeys ! Like rush hour doesn't exist anywhere else in the country, or in any of the big cities.

It's getting laughable.

There are no mere events in Scotland these days. Only a nose-to-tail procession of ever more dire crises. Every day is a red alert day. If Bruce Willis thought he had problems dealing with the bad guys in the Die Hard movies he should try travelling in Scotland. Or getting medical treatment. Or doing any of the things that fortunate folk elsewhere consider no more than part of life’s humdrum routine. You need all the attributes of a super-hero just to cope in crisis-ridden Scotland.

Some folk think they’re hard done by because a dozen or so of the most heavily militarised nations in the world are queuing up to drop bombs on the rubble that remains where their homes used to be. They want to spare a thought for the poor unfortunates who might have to endure the unspeakable horror of being obliged to journey from Falkirk to Glasgow by bus instead of train.


Nothing is ordinary in Scotland any more. Everything is extreme. Today’s crisis is the worst crisis since yesterday’s crisis. But nothing compared to tomorrow’s crisis.
The papers are running out of exclamation marks! Broadcasters are being forced to re-use superlatives!
Existence is extremis!
The trains are a bit busy!

https://scottovoce.wordpress.com/2015/12/13/a-crisis-of-crises/

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Shakethedisease wrote: »

It's getting laughable.

It sure is...

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

It's nothing to do with bucks stopping. It's the complete over egging of every pudding to destruction 24/7 in the Scottish media. We actually have newspapers today doing full page stories about people having 'to stand' on train journeys ! Like rush hour doesn't exist anywhere else in the country, or in any of the big cities.

It's getting laughable.

https://scottovoce.wordpress.com/2015/12/13/a-crisis-of-crises/

No - the reaction to critism is laughable; predictable and laughable. So now the SNP Collective says it does not matter.

But keep it up.

I suggest you argue next that it is all a Westminster plot by not granting the Scottish Parliament a magic bridge repair kit. It's perfectly understandable to invoke magic buck-deflecting powers but I don't think that was granted either. Put it on your wish list.

Shakethedisease

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

It sure is...

I've already provided you the Former First Minister taking reports about the Forth Road Bridge very seriously indeed.

Shortly after I took office as First Minister a report landed on my desk with one almighty thump. It detailed the serious problems with the steel cabling on the Forth Road Bridge. It also showed how successive governments for more than 20 years had pigeon-holed the case to build a third crossing.

A further report also detailed the likelihood of success of drying out the cables with the equivalent of a giant hair dryer. I still decided to go ahead with the building of the new bridge.

The indications were that the existing road bridge was suffering from many years of much heavier traffic than had ever been expected in the 1950s when it was designed. It was simple wear and tear and as soon as you sorted one problem another would likely emerge.
And the real problem was that, while any engineering repair could be handled, it would inevitably mean prolonged closures of the bridge.
And the cost of closing the Forth Road Bridge even for short period was prohibitive as we have seen over the last week.

You seem to be getting your knickers in a serious twist over the bridge being shut down for several weeks in 2010, as opposed to several weeks in 2015. Would there be any difference ?





And I did ask you ( re your last graph ) why no-one seemed to be talking about oil running out anymore. Any ideas ?

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

No - the reaction to critism is laughable; predictable and laughable. So now the SNP Collective says it does not matter.

But keep it up.

I suggest you argue next that it is all a Westminster plot by not granting the Scottish Parliament a magic bridge repair kit. It's perfectly understandable to invoke magic buck-deflecting powers but I don't think that was granted either. Put it on your wish list.

There's a new bridge shortly due for completion. No need for any magic.

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

There's a new bridge shortly due for completion. No need for any magic.

Oh yes, a deflection, or is it a detour?

Keep it up.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

Oh yes, a deflection, or is it a detour?

Keep it up.

Well it's like this string. You, and Labour and now saying that the FRB should've been shut for several weeks, before the defect actually appeared. Now Transport Scotland and the SNP are good at many things... but psychic predictions isn't one of them.

"The defect which has resulted in the closure of the Forth Road Bridge was identified in the last few weeks. It was unexpected and not predicted by previous analysis that was carried out by Forth Estuary Transport Authority. "The work that was being considered in 2010 was prompted by concern about another part of the truss end link, not the part that is now cracked."

http://news.stv.tv/east-central/1335819-calls-for-all-forth-road-bridge-safety-documents-to-be-released/

Apart from that, I'm at a bit of a loss as to what you actually think McKay and Sturgeon should be resigning for ? It's all just leaping on anything, anything at all. Like I said the bigger picture is to stop the SNP getting a majority in May. The media seems to have gone into full SNP hysterics mode already ( which I know you enjoy ) reminiscent of the referendum campaign.

Swinney's budget will be out on Wednesday. Cue further hysterics. When Westminster makes difficult decisions it's the 'right thing to do' though. The SNP will be monstered in the media whatever they do. Wearing and it doesn't work anymore. For all that the Yes campaign at the time was labeled an echo chamber. I think there are large swathes of news outlets that have become even worse these days. Same on this forum. Labour's recent win in Oldham being a similar example of media bias and commentary, getting things on the ground completely wrong.

Leanne1812

.string. wrote: »

Oh yes, a deflection, or is it a detour?

Keep it up.

The cheek of them!

Just willy-nilly building a new bridge......

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

It's nothing to do with bucks stopping. It's the complete over egging of every pudding to destruction 24/7 in the Scottish media. We actually have newspapers today doing full page stories about people having 'to stand' on train journeys ! Like rush hour doesn't exist anywhere else in the country, or in any of the big cities.

It's getting laughable.

https://scottovoce.wordpress.com/2015/12/13/a-crisis-of-crises/

I rather agree that the reporting is vastly over the top. It's only the regional government of a small part of the UK. Whilst the issues are locally important, on the wider perspective they are unimportant. A totally avoidable closure of a major bridge for a couple of months is nothing less than the locals would expect and find totally acceptable.
Some sense of perspective would be welcome.

Presumably the same sense of perspective might also be applied by the ridiculous Whitford with her nonsense uninformed predictions of the total collapse of the English NHS and the absurd Armageddon like predictions about 5 more years of Tory government.

But then again, I have always been a optimist.