Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Gangaweed

The only benefit Scotland brings to the UK is Faslane.

Nicola Sturgeon looked and behaved like a rhinoceros - head down and charge before taking in all the facts.

elantan

Leanne1812 wrote: »

QT confirmed the lovebomb is truly over.......Scotland, you voted to stay but we deteste you for having the audacity to consider leaving.

It's quite something that SNP, this small insignificant party ( at least a year ago they were) is causing such waves throughout the UK.

I'm not alone in feeling glad they are.

Aye i'm sure many people figured out a while ago this would happen, but hey we need to remember that as a majority this is what we want ....

oh and Clapton I hate flower of Scotland, and refuse to stand for it, have walked out of places when i hear it tbh ... but you need to remember god save the queen aint exactly innocent itself look at verse 6 for example

Lord grant that marshal wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God Save The Queen.

not exactly oozing love is it

Generali

elantan wrote: »

Aye i'm sure many people figured out a while ago this would happen, but hey we need to remember that as a majority this is what we want ....

oh and Clapton I hate flower of Scotland, and refuse to stand for it, have walked out of places when i hear it tbh ... but you need to remember god save the queen aint exactly innocent itself look at verse 6 for example

Lord grant that marshal wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God Save The Queen.

not exactly oozing love is it

Also there's no evidence that anyone has ever sung it nor have I ever heard it apart from written on the internet or on one of those QI-style 'fancy that' programs.

elantan

that doesnt mean it doesnt exist though

Leanne1812

Gangaweed wrote: »

The only benefit Scotland brings to the UK is Faslane.

Nicola Sturgeon looked and behaved like a rhinoceros - head down and charge before taking in all the facts.

Ha! Thanks for the love :-)

Something to ponder from Nicola.


https://twitter.com/peterdempsie/status/568549335832633344

CLAPTON

elantan wrote: »

Aye i'm sure many people figured out a while ago this would happen, but hey we need to remember that as a majority this is what we want ....

oh and Clapton I hate flower of Scotland, and refuse to stand for it, have walked out of places when i hear it tbh ... but you need to remember god save the queen aint exactly innocent itself look at verse 6 for example

Lord grant that marshal wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God Save The Queen.

not exactly oozing love is it

of course it exists

The Scots people support and actually voted for the ballad in the 21st to represent what they think is the very very best of modern Scotland.


Virtually none of the English even know the 18th century wade verse exists, certainly have never voted it a national anthem and all would be appalled to sing that on an important national occasion.


Sadly that's the different careless racism/nationalistic jingoism and decent tolerance and co-operation between people of a common sovereignty.

Generali

elantan wrote: »

that doesnt mean it doesnt exist though

So a verse that almost nobody has heard of and is never sung exists. It's this sort of argument that I find very reassuring about Scottish Nationalism. It won't take the Scots people long to work out what a ridiculous bunch you are.

antrobus

Generali wrote: »

So a verse that almost nobody has heard of and is never sung exists. It's this sort of argument that I find very reassuring about Scottish Nationalism. It won't take the Scots people long to work out what a ridiculous bunch you are.

Oh no! Not the Marshal Wade verse thing again!

http://www.aforceforgood.org.uk/precious/anthem1

Do I have to go to all the trouble of pointing out that George Wade was only in a position to crush the "rebellious Scots" for a few short months, utterly failed to do so, and that it was the Duke of Cumberland who actually did crush the "rebellious Scots", and that the crushing off the "rebellious Scots" was at least partly carried out by the Scots, there being more Scots in the Hanoverian army than there where in the Stuart army?

Gangaweed

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Ha! Thanks for the love :-)

Something to ponder from Nicola.


https://twitter.com/peterdempsie/status/568549335832633344

Pleasure... pity they didn't vote yes. They would have crashed and burnt.

The only alternative Nicola offers is a pipe dream. There is no magic money tree that's going to give her the billions that she wants.

Eventually, just like all other Socialists, she'll run out of someone else's money.

ruggedtoast

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Just off to bed, seeing a bit of a furore on Twitter. It does seem that newspapers were misrepresenting the implications of the new devolution 'deal'. A complaint about the the Daily Record.. by a pro-indy website has been upheld. Numerous newpapers followed the same narrative.. but the Daily Record was the one who 1 ) Headlined the original 'Vow' and then 2 ) Headlined and trumpeted once again 'Vow Delivered'... then went onto grossly misrepresent it and the financial aspects.

Can I suggest that you look past newspaper headlines for the actual implications of 'further devolution' ? As it does seem that you are a bit stuck on this notion that the Smith commission was some kind of 'game changer'. When actually it was a really damp squib in terms of, well, anything much. And newspapers ( especially the most pro-union ones) have a tendency to exaggerate the real implications.. as seen..

Am sure there are more than a few newspapers going through the archives just now to see just what they wrote too. I'm not posting a link, as it should be relatively easy to work out who made the complaint and see the full judgements. Half of Scotland certainly will anyway.. No-one likes being lied to after all.

There wasn't any substance to this vow the Record was talking about. They seemed to have mostly invented it from the obvious terror the main parties were experiencing that Scotland was going to vote Yes. it was otherwise pretty vague.

Anyway, it was the Sun wot won it.