Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

That's right.

Also right. However, the Fiscal Commission put forward a number of options. Of which a 'currency union' for the short/medium term was their preferred option for stability and mutual advantage. Until such times, as both economies started to diverge.



The poster above asked me what my own currency preferences were. ( ie short transitional status quo, before a clean break and new currency ).. not the SNP's or Fiscal Commission recommendations. You've confused the two.

fair enough

so after separation and independence you personally were willing for England to determine
-scottish interest rates
-scottish government borrowing i.e. scotland would have a balanced budget i.e. austerity writ large with huge budget cuts
-england would decide whether scottish banks were solvent

elantan

Do you think we could get him to come up twice a year till the next Indy ref lol ...

Aye I enjoy the dug and often find myself chuckling at the discriptions

kabayiri

Why should Corbyn seek support from the SNP if he wins the Labour leadership?

If they did a deal where Corbyn supported SNP demands for another referendum and Scotland went independent, then wouldn't that basically blow Labour's chances of power in Westminster for a long time?

It's the Tories the SNP should be supporting. They have least to lose if Scotland left.

Thrugelmir

kabayiri wrote: »

Why should Corbyn seek support from the SNP if he wins the Labour leadership?

Corbyn will have more urgent matters to attend to I suspect. Not least keeping the Labour party together in a cohesive manner. Expect him to drop his more extreme views (at least) initially.

elantan

kabayiri wrote: »

Why should Corbyn seek support from the SNP if he wins the Labour leadership?

If they did a deal where Corbyn supported SNP demands for another referendum and Scotland went independent, then wouldn't that basically blow Labour's chances of power in Westminster for a long time?

It's the Tories the SNP should be supporting. They have least to lose if Scotland left.

Corbyn is against Scotland getting independence... I don't see him doing any deals with the SNP regarding Indy ref two ... I'm still hoping he doesn't get chosen for obvious reasons, but I think we may be stuck with him

elantan

I love Wee Eck ... He's on the telly doing what he does best ... Serious crush going on here .... Am running out of popcorn lol

Thrugelmir

elantan wrote: »

I'm still hoping he doesn't get chosen for obvious reasons, but I think we may be stuck with him

There'll be David Milliband to contend with come the next General Election. Now there's a heavyweight with kerb appeal.

Generali

elantan wrote: »

I love Wee Eck ... He's on the telly doing what he does best ... Serious crush going on here .... Am running out of popcorn lol

You'll notice that supporters of normal parties do not speak like this about the leader, I never heard John Major or John Smith described thus. It's just the nutters.

Shakethedisease

kabayiri wrote: »

Why should Corbyn seek support from the SNP if he wins the Labour leadership?

Numbers. 232 .....+ 56 + Green/Plaid Cymru/SDLP etc etc. Will back Corbyn to the hilt re things like Trident and Anti-Austerity policies. Add in some Tory rebels and Cameron is on very shaky ground.

If they did a deal where Corbyn supported SNP demands for another referendum and Scotland went independent, then wouldn't that basically blow Labour's chances of power in Westminster for a long time?

It's the Tories the SNP should be supporting. They have least to lose if Scotland left.

There will be no deals re indy ref 2 in Westminster with Corbyn. Holyrood is where that particular path lies.The SNP will just back him on whatever is in their own manifesto. A LOT of which there which they agree on. And good grief, that's got to be better than Labour simply abstaining on just about everything as they were before parliament broke up. Blairites have thrown in the towel already accepting the inevitable.

Labour's Chuka Umunna has urged his party to unite around its new leader, in an apparent offer of reconciliation with left-wing leadership candidate Jeremy Corbyn.
Mr Umunna said the party should not "simply dismiss out of hand those who hold critical views of New Labour".
He added "solidarity is key" and the party must "accept the result".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34123997

And Cameron is already seeing what lies in store with such a slim majority...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11840493/David-Cameron-backs-down-on-purdah-but-faces-fresh-defeat-over-EU-Referendum-Bill.html

What Labour does next will be key. And if things do go Corbyn's way and he manages to keep Labour together... only to lose in 2020 ? Scotland will leave the union more than likely. But I remain unconvinced 100% Corbyn will lose. Seeing the fire he seems to have lit under this Labour party election. I think he can probably repeat the same in the wider electorate also. Is it sustainable ? Who knows.. but Labour have a LOT of new members thanks only to him. Once they accept the inevitable, it's only a matter of time before individual MP's start waking up to 'being popular' again.

Shakethedisease

Generali wrote: »

You'll notice that supporters of normal parties do not speak like this about the leader, I never heard John Major or John Smith described thus. It's just the nutters.

Oft we've grown up with Alex Salmond from the early 1980's. And he was quite a looker in his younger days for a politician lol.. I've crushed on Dave Gahan ( Depeche Mode ) since I was 14 and am 44 now.. He's in his 50's and I still have a massive crush. Wee Eck has still 'got it' too...*throws knickers at screen*

And it's got to be better than the crush I had on Phil from 'Location, Location, Location' and Neil Oliver ( swoons ) at one point surely ?

Pass the popcorn elantan...