Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

CLAPTON

zagubov wrote: »

Ah, it had to happen - more division in the SNP ranks. Thanks to the Herald for pointing out that a SNP backbencher didn't vote SNP in the election.

It'll give you some idea why when the unionist media say "water is wet", you'd better go out in the rain to check it for yourself.

it would seem the Herald run silly stories about

-the SNP
-The LibDems
-Labour
-Tories


but of course the only person with a Faux outrage is the SNP acolyte condemning the newspaper

why aren't we surprised?

still, the yet to come, one party state will know how to sort out the media; just a matter of time

no 'je suis charlie' in SNP land

Froggitt

If Manchester is offered FFA, I cant see how Darling Nikki cant turn it down......SNP have wanted tax and spend powers for years.

Generali

Can London have FFA?

zagubov

Generali wrote: »

Can London have FFA?

I voted for it to have devolution for an assembly and a mayor.

I reckon that the northern cities getting elected mayors, devolved budgets would be a shot in the arm for them. Next step after that, if they want it, would be local assemblies for their region.

Tromking

zagubov wrote: »

I voted for it to have devolution for an assembly and a mayor.

I reckon that the northern cities getting elected mayors, devolved budgets would be a shot in the arm for them. Next step after that, if they want it, would be local assemblies for their region.

The hasty halfcocked non-devolution currently being offered to the English city/regions is nothing more than a panicky measure by a Westminster elite worried that the call for Scots style devolution might make take hold in England too.
The current constitutional crisis is quite simply solved by creating a federal UK with a 400/500 seat English parliament based in the North (York?) and a small federal assembly (100 seats?) situated in London.

CLAPTON

Tromking wrote: »

The hasty halfcocked non-devolution currently being offered to the English city/regions is nothing more than a panicky measure by a Westminster elite worried that the call for Scots style devolution might make take hold in England too.
The current constitutional crisis is quite simply solved by creating a federal UK with a 400/500 seat English parliament based in the North (York?) and a small federal assembly (100 seats?) situated in London.

what constitutional crisis do we have ?

Froggitt

CLAPTON wrote: »

what constitutional crisis do we have ?

A smaller one than this would have been......

Tromking

CLAPTON wrote: »

what constitutional crisis do we have ?

Devolution for some and not for others has created a right dogs breakfast of a constitutional settlement. You surely remember the time when everyone just voted for an MP to Westminster and that was it. No West Lothian question, no two tier MP's with EVEL and all the other anomalies that part-devolution throws up.
Our constitutional settlement is bust and clever people need to fix it.

CLAPTON

Tromking wrote: »

Devolution for some and not for others has created a right dogs breakfast of a constitutional settlement. You surely remember the time when everyone just voted for an MP to Westminster and that was it. No West Lothian question, no two tier MP's with EVEL and all the other anomalies that part-devolution throws up.
Our constitutional settlement is bust and clever people need to fix it.

Our constitutional issues can be resolved quite easily without creating a whole new layers of majors, assemblies etc.

There is no need to be panicked into hasty action just because of Scotland.

Simple rules : if a power is devolved them only MPs from areas that where the power is not devolved get a vote.

Plus a fair and just system of block grants for all the peoples of the UK.

.string.

Let me see now:

We would then have
o. a Parish Council
o. a County Council
o. a Regional Parliament
o. a National Parliament
o. a.UK Parliament
o. The House of Lords
o. The EU Parliament

each with their collection of attention seeking politicians with their salaries and expenses.!


Somehow I don't think so. If we need more local devolution we have perfectly serviceable County Councils ready and waiting for more money and self-importance.