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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies
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Oh and while we're on the subject of Constitution, what do you think happens if the SNP manage to combine with the opposition to vote down the Budget of a minority Government?
(I'll give you a clue, it's not what happens in the USA).0 -
Once again, you are ill informedIt's the violence towards the leader of a legitimate political party that did it for me and Salmond's refusal to say anything to suggest that the 'protestors' (violent thugs in reality) had done anything wrong.
Salmond condemns the bully boysSNP leader Alex Salmond has urged people to steer clear of unionist rallies after Better Together accused the Yes campaign of turning "sinister".I don't claim and have never claimed that every SNP supporter is a racist. The SNP is a racist organisation however.
Utter bo11ocks.
Please articulate evidence to the SNP party being racist.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Hmmm, it's interesting how you read that chart.
Certainly over the whole period, it appears that the relative debt has been built up in the RoUK.
If fairness applied across the UK, that graph should be pretty much 0 through the whole period.
Eh? The graph shows a higher relative deficit in Scotland vs. rUK in all but three years since 99...
If "fairness" requires the graph to be 0 then Scotland needs to send an enormous cheque South to balance things up. Roughly £35bn.0 -
chewmylegoff wrote: »Eh? The graph shows a higher relative deficit in Scotland vs. rUK in all but three years since 99...
If "fairness" requires the graph to be 0 then Scotland needs to send an enormous cheque South to balance things up.
Are you sure?
When you read Scotland V RUK relative deficit and the figures are mainly negative, then I don;t read it as you do
It's reading , that bar 3 years, Scotland deficit was lower than the RoUK's relative redicit:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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you already live in a democratic, free, rich, law abiding and independent country that stands on its own feet.
I guess one could debate that we are not: -
1) Independent Country
2) Stands on our own merits
We need Devo Max as a minimum to achieve that:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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you can`t blame mainstream UK politicians if they choose to not pander to an electorate that is wilfully distancing itself.
Have you considered why the electorate is distancing itself from Westminster governments?
What is the root cause in these "regions" that is distancing themselves from the traditional two party elections.
Why haven't these two parties addressed the issued to quosh the minority parties?
What is the root cause?:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Are you sure?
It's reading , that bar 3 years, Scotland deficit was lower than the RoUK's relative redicit
No... Just the opposite.
In all but three years, Scotland's deficit was worse.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Nope. Wrong on all counts.
I'm not surprised that we are in disagreement, however I have proven you to be wrong more than you have proven me to be wrong.FPTP works very well when you effectively have a 2 party system. With a 6 party system it's ludicrous. The Greens, UKIP and Lib Dems will all get far more votes than the SNP but far fewer seats.
PR all but ensures that there will never be a Conservative Government again.
Ah, here is the crux of the problem you have.
The electorate are effectively rebelling against the two part system and voting for a rainbow government and as you put it, PR, would better represent the electorate than FPTP.
You previously said that PR would better represent the electorate, yet your party is not proposing it, because, as you put it, your party would never get a majority again (no party would)
just because the party you vote for is beneficial for your constituency, it does not mean that they are good for the whole of the UK.
The two party system is dead, time to move on with PR.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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Oh and while we're on the subject of Constitution, what do you think happens if the SNP manage to combine with the opposition to vote down the Budget of a minority Government?
(I'll give you a clue, it's not what happens in the USA).
Your being very negative once again.
the SNP would work very hard and closely with Labour so it would not vote them down.
They would not vote with the Conservatives as that has long been shown to be taken negatively in Scotland.
Unless the Conservatives and Lib/Dems, get enough to form another coalition, the likelihood is a Labour Minority government, supported by the SNP on a vote by vote basis.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »No... Just the opposite.
In all but three years, Scotland's deficit was worse.
Explain that one then
Take the first bar.
In 99-00, Scotland's Relative Deficit vesus rUK was almost -£750 per person
This means our relative deficit was lower than the rUK
It's why you highlighted the spike of increased deficit under the "Yes" campaign period:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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