Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

kabayiri

Better_Days wrote: »

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Yes, although it was always going to be very difficult for the SNP to get a balance between appealing to Scottish voters and not alienating the rUK who they have to work with if the SNP wants to translate MP's into influence in government. It seems to me that having the GE following so closely on the heels of the referendum hasn't given time for things to settle down again before it was 'once more into the breach' and all that.

Isn't the art of the Political candidate the ability to appear to be representing our own needs, no matter that we are completely different from the next person.

It's an elegant con job at best.

.string.

Leanne1812 wrote: »

You are, I presume, aware that Scotland is part of the United Kingdom?

As has been explained SNP MP's will vote on issues that have a direct impact on Scotland. Is there a problem with that? Would you expect your representative in Westminster not to vote for his/her constituents interests?

So - it's direct impact now is it?

I had no problem, in fact not even any idea that there could possibly be a problem at all, with non-English MPs voting in the H of C. But that was before the Devolved Parliaments were set up where English MPs were not allowed to vote there.

I tell you what, you let the English lot vote in the Scottish Parliament on Scottish matters, and your lot can still keep voting on English only matters in the H of C.

Tromking

Better_Days wrote: »

Yes, although it was always going to be very difficult for the SNP to get a balance between appealing to Scottish voters and not alienating the rUK who they have to work with if the SNP wants to translate MP's into influence in government.

Despite and maybe because of Tory politicking, the attitude in England with progressives toward Scotland and the SNP in this GE has been one of quiet respect. Why 'Nicola' had to transfer the ill feeling between Labour and SNP locally to a level where the UK Labour leader is prepared to cut Scotland free is poor politics and bordering on the hubristic in my view.

Generali

Better_Days wrote: »

So, how likely do you think that if there is a 'vote by vote' basis (as suggested by Shakethedisease) government would become untenable and we end up having another election before the end of the 5 years?

I have no way of knowing of course but a massive problem the SNP will have is that almost all of the likely new MPs have absolutely no experience of how the HoC works. There are 350 rules governing the day-to-day running of the House alone. Simply asking a question at the time it should be asked is a minefield.

I suspect that even with the SNP as the third party there will be chaos.

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

I'm not sure what you mean by an illogical party but then I don't think that you do either.

Certainly it would be illogical to have them the EU Cabinet if there was one.

I've always found it Ironic that UKIP was anti Europe, yet only held MEP seats.

Ok, now they have two seats, but I'm referring to when they had 0 MP's and 24 MEP's

IveSeenTheLight

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

First past the post may well skew the results of seats, but a majority of eligible voters in this country will not be voting for the SNP.

Three points on this: -

1) No other party in Scotland will have a majority in Scotland

2) No party will have a majority of voters in the UK

3) You may be incorrect that the SNP may not get the majority of votes as some polls are predicting the SNP will get just over 50% of the vote

http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/318815-stvipsos-mori-poll-snp-set-to-win-all-scots-seats-at-general-election/

A survey on voter intention showed 54% are set to back Nicola Sturgeon's party on May 7, up two points since January.

Im my book, 54% of the vote represents the majority with 46% split amongst the other parties.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

But with time an effective opposition that represents the majority will be found.

Hmmmmm, what do you mean with this?
Are the Labour, Con's & Lib Dems going to join as one party in Scotland?

Keep dreaming, if the polls are correct (and I admit to a bit of skepticism) the majority will be represented in Scottish politics. Something we don't get in the UK

IveSeenTheLight

kabayiri wrote: »

The Scottish voters are less than 10%. Mr Milliband has to campaign to the 100%.

That's true, but the Scottish Electorate has always been key to secure a Labour majority.

Does he believe he can get the majority in England?

IveSeenTheLight

.string. wrote: »

your lot can still keep voting on English only matters in the H of C.

The SNP have said they will abstain from English Only matters.

Where matters have an impact down the line on Scotland, of course they need to be involved?

Of course, you could agree to Devo Max and that will keep everything seperate and clear.

IveSeenTheLight

Tromking wrote: »

Why 'Nicola' had to transfer the ill feeling between Labour and SNP locally to a level where the UK Labour leader is prepared to cut Scotland free is poor politics and bordering on the hubristic in my view.

Surely poor wee Nicola does not have the power over Ed to determine Labour policies?

It's Ed that has taken this stance instead of fighting for the Scottish Labour Electorate as part of the UK

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

I have no way of knowing of course but a massive problem the SNP will have is that almost all of the likely new MPs have absolutely no experience of how the HoC works. There are 350 rules governing the day-to-day running of the House alone. Simply asking a question at the time it should be asked is a minefield.

I suspect that even with the SNP as the third party there will be chaos.

Oh for gods sake....... Really..........

There are new politicians from all parties each parliament.

I'm sure any of these highly educated MP's can read and digest the rule book.