Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Generali

There has always, I believe, been a dark undercurrent to the Nationalist/Unionist divide in Glasgow.

http://sgo.sagepub.com/content/3/3/2158244013504207

Be warned, that is a very unpleasant read for a dry academic paper.

Statistics indicate a year-on-year increase in incidents of domestic abuse reported to the police between 2002 and 2003 (35,877) and 2011 and 2012 (59,847). The majority of these incidents occurred in the Strathclyde Police jurisdiction, with the majority of victims being female.

While correlation isn't causation it's certainly fair to say that a huge rise in domestic violence associated with a sporting event that has friction between the Unionist/Nationalist clans has happened alongside a rise in Nationalist/Unionist tensions. Those tensions seem to be being stoked by Nationalists who see inter-communal hatred as a means to an end.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Generali wrote: »

There has always, I believe, been a dark undercurrent to the Nationalist/Unionist divide in Glasgow.
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Yep, the sectarian heartlands have proved a fertile recruiting ground for the SNP. No wonder that sort of hate is now spilling over into the campaigns.

Leanne1812

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Nonsense...

The Nationalist bullies and thugs are out of control...

In fact it's so bad even journalists are being targeted for intimidation as they are reporting in Scotland.


http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/journalists-abused-over-nationality-at-snp-rally-1-3743120

Not content with just bullying and intimidating Journalists, the nationalists are now trying to threaten the very existence of BBC Scotland...


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/569919/SNP-want-axe-BBC-Scotland

No, it's not nonsense Hamish. If you want to keep stoking there are plenty of anti SNP-scottish incidents I can bring to your attention but why would I want to keep fannig the flames? The only ones choosing to do so are hoping for a dramatic change in scots voting intentions. Yep, all very predictable.

Have you conveniently forgotten the CBI's very public backing of the Union during the referendum? A group that was damaged by its decision not to remain impartial. Many of its members had to resign or distance themselves as they themselves could not be seen to associate or be connected with such a group. Did you forget about that?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Speaking of hate.....

Disgusting and abusive behaviour from SNP party activists, creepily following around a female Labour politician with cameras, filming people she talks to, and then describing it as "hunting" on social media.

Seems some of the cybernats are turning into full blown stalkers.

Can you imagine the outrage we'd hear from Shakey if Unionists had stalked her at a canvass event with cameras, shouting abuse at her in the streets, and then describing it as 'hunting' online?

Suspect the Police would be called in short order....

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Have you conveniently forgotten the CBI's very public backing of the Union during the referendum? A group that was damaged by its decision not to remain impartial.

It's the Confederation of British Industry and had no need to remain impartial, only to tell the truth in representing the majority of it's members, which it did admirably.

It noted in strong terms that many of it's members had very real concerns that indy would damage businesses in Scotland, and be bad for both employers and employees, as the economics simply didn't stack up.

That's honesty, not bias....;)

But remind me again, how is a Scottish news reporter being called a Quisling P**** by nationalists at a CBI event anything to do with the policies of the CBI he was there to report on?

kabayiri

Indeed Hamish.

New age politics my foot. This is no brave new world, no re-energised politics. It's old fashioned militant tendencies coming out in fact.

The trend in the rest of the UK has been towards centre ground politics. The current coallition has actually been pretty successful; it lasted the full term and there were no really serious fall outs.

We really don't need nationalist parties taking us back to the bad old days. Union activists nearly destroyed any credibility in our industries.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

And lets not forget the outrageous lies and deceit the SNP were spinning just last year in an attempt to sway voters....



A coming oil boom that would coincide with Scotlands first years of indy, (which given the spectacular crash in oil prices, must be the worst call in political history) with the SNP supporters endless talk of secret oil fields that were being hidden until after the indyref.

As it turns out, there was a giant oil find.... Shame it was in England.

Leanne1812

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

It's the Confederation of British Industry and had no need to remain impartial, only to tell the truth in representing the majority of it's members, which it did admirably.

It noted in strong terms that many of it's members had very real concerns that indy would damage businesses in Scotland, and be bad for both employers and employees, as the economics simply didn't stack up.

That's honesty, not bias....;)

But remind me again, how is a Scottish news reporter being called a Quisling P**** by nationalists at a CBI event anything to do with the policies of the CBI he was there to report on?

Ah but it did need to publicly reverse its backing did it not? Does that tell you it's members were unhappy with its decision to back one side?


I'm not going to condone what happened to the journalist. Why on earth would I? I cannot abide the abuse coming from any side and will not be a part of it.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

For anyone that hasn't yet figured out the SNP's really unhealthy authoritarian tendencies, this article explains it clearly.

The SNP's disturbing, seven-year obsession with looking through the nation's keyholes to ensure we are all behaving, sitting straight, eating properly and getting to bed early continues.

It is surely only a matter of time before the Scottish government's children's minister, Aileen Campbell, is invited to North Korea to make a presentation on how her party has managed to secure such coast-to-coast state surveillance of families without any bad publicity.

Last Wednesday night, the government effectively paved the way for official surveillance of family life by allowing for state guardians to be appointed for every child in Scotland.

Aided and abetted by an increasingly out-of-control police force it has already sought to criminalise young people from poor neighbourhoods for singing political songs that the Scottish state deems unacceptable.

It has tried to ban Buckfast; prevent the use of glasses in pubs and banish happy hours. It wants to examine our fridges and ban smoking in cars. The Scottish government, aided and abetted by a nonexistent opposition, will not stop until surveillance cameras are installed in every home.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/23/scottish-children-government-appointed-guardians?CMP=share_btn_tw

Optimist

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Although you'd never know it reading the last few pages of this thread we are all living very peacefully together. I nor anyone I know have experienced abuse or violence no matter what our political views are. The picture of the vandalised window & door is certainly not representative of what's happening around the country. Isolated incidents portrayed as mainstream by Hamish. I think he's well and truly rattled by the polls which are pretty consistent no matter how many tactic changes the party leaders try to trot out.

Online abuse is one thing but I'd imagine for most of us our daily lives are unscathed by the election frenzy.

I have to say that is not what my new neighbors say. They have just moved here from Glasgow as they said the hassle and general poor atmosphere post referendum was just too much for them

I belief they were firmly in the no camp.