Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

.string.

It seems that the SNP are finding new and novel ways to claim that 45% is more than 55%

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Shakethedisease wrote: »

...about 42% of the electorate ...

I mean 42%

Voltaire7

.string. wrote: »

It seems that the SNP are finding new and novel ways to claim that 45% is more than 55%

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I mean 42%

Whereas you have a Government 0% of the electorate voted for.

Tromking

Voltaire7 wrote: »

If you vote SNP then you're voting for independence.

Not really.
Plenty of dyed-in-the wool SNP voters will never vote for independence. Dangerous and ultimately disappointing to think otherwise.

Voltaire7

Tromking wrote: »

Not really.
Plenty of dyed-in-the wool SNP voters will never vote for independence. Dangerous and ultimately disappointing to think otherwise.

Aww, are you disappointed?

Voters can change allegiance. It's not like supporting a football team where you're stuck with the same team for life. Though a big chunk of England are clearly indoctrinated one way or t'other.

You clearly support democracy, just as long is it's the right sort of democracy.


What a horrible hypocrite you are.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

It seems that the SNP are finding new and novel ways to claim that 45% is more than 55%

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I mean 42%

Eh ? It was the from the poll in the Guardian today.. and it was 43%, I mistyped. I didn't want to say 45 % in case I frightened you too much since you believe nearly half of Scotland are all loonies anyway.

However, the numbers look even worse for Labour when the responses are broken down by the kind of constituency in which people live. As ICM’s previous poll last December also suggested, (as indeed has some of Ashcroft’s constituency polling), Labour’s vote appears to be falling more heavily in its heartlands than it is in places where it was less strong in 2010. When that pattern is taken into account, Labour’s projected seats tally falls to just two – no more than would be won by the Tories and the Liberal Democrats – while the SNP are projected to win no less than 53...

..Top of the list is the evidence that many voters continue to reject Labour’s claim that the election of a large phalanx of SNP rather than Labour MPs would make it more likely that David Cameron remains Prime Minister.

Second, it looks as though Jim Murphy’s leadership has failed to persuade voters of his leadership qualities...

In contrast, the SNP’s message – that they would hope to be able to provide the ballast for a minority Labour government – is apparently being accepted by those who have switched from Labour to the SNP. No less than 51% of this group say they would be ‘content’ if there were to be some kind of deal between the two parties that kept the Tories out of power,..

http://blog.whatscotlandthinks.org/2015/03/icm-show-how-labour-is-failing-to-reach-its-target-voters/

Polls are averaging around the 45% mark anyway. 3% either side is within margins of error. But no, I wasn't referencing the referendum result. Just the polls for the election coming up. The SNP have no need to redefine those figures at the moment.

Moby

Tromking wrote: »

No, everything done by a SNP block of MP`s sent to Westminster by an infantilised Scots electorate will be a "bad thing".

Hardly 'infantilised' but more like 'politicised. Scotland has changed over the last couple of years. There is a political awareness, not present in England, (so much apathy and cynicism here )!
We live in interesting times. Remember those of you who wanted to keep the union, (including me) there are consequences....the SNP have a democratic right to sit in the HoC and vote in the way they see fit. They will have over 50 MP's possibly! Double the Lib Dems!

The tories will find it difficult to form a govmt, (10 DUP MP's will not be sufficient). The sums don't seem to add up for the tories even if they end up being the largest party in England due to Labour losses in Scotland. They have no right to complain about this because they believe in the Union. The SNP, Plaid Cymru, the Greens and Labour are left of centre parties and have much in common. Labour is the only truely national party with MP's in all parts of the UK, (sister party SDLP in N Ireland). Surely the only realistic and fair outcome at present is a govmt representing all parts of the UK and the highlighted parties above represent this!

.string.

Voltaire7 wrote: »

Whereas you have a Government 0% of the electorate voted for.

Don't be silly.

Voltaire7

.string. wrote: »

Don't be silly.

You're big on the referendum numbers, so go on, remind us of general election numbers?

Voltaire7

.string. wrote: »

Don't be silly.

What's taking you so long?

Are you sitting there trying to add 2 numbers together and finding that task a bit tricky without a calculator?? Why not give me the two numbers and I'll add them together for you?

kabayiri

Voltaire7 wrote: »

If you vote SNP then you're voting for independence. There's not much argument to be had on that one.

A referendum is an ideal vehicle to consult on a specific issue.

I've also got no problem with the SNP using their presence in HoC to call for another referendum.

Let the house vote on it.

Let's get trivial things like the deficit sorted first. Then the economics of an independent Scotland might look a little more plausible.

Hamish is right. You don't want to be going it alone with a whacking great hole in your finances.