At what age child should you morally stop using parent and child spaces

Half_way

Don't agree with these spaces

Cars have got bigger though & spaces have got smaller.

Spaces are roughly the same size, and cars have always been available in a variety of sizes, if your vehicle is too large then maybe you should invest in something a little more practical.

As previously mentioned P&C bays are a gimmick detract from the value of disabled bays, and as such P&C bays should be treated with contempt, there is nothing morally wrong with parking in a P&C bay

globalds

Don't agree with these spaces

I don't agree with these spaces as I tend to think that the time is long past due that the minimum size of any parking space should be increased .
whenever I see a really old car ..original mini or Austin morris I can see that the problem of parking and getting things in or out never existed ..Cars now are huge compared to the days those space sizings were calculated ..parking bays ..all parking bays need to to increase accordingly
We have been turned against each other due to an unacceptable situation ..not just for parents with kids ..but all car users

Fruitcake

Don't agree with these spaces

I am a parent and I am a child, but I am not disabled as defined by the Equality Act 2010. By definition I therefore have the right to park in a parent and child space any time I choose but not a disabled space except when I have a disabled passenger or disabled passengers who may or indeed may not have a blue badge when I WILL park in a disabled space and legitimately NOT display a blue badge on private land. I wish I could find my Blue Peter Badge as it fits the requirements of most private parking companies. I also wish I had a blue badge holder. My relatives who have a disabled badge only have a black, blue badge holder, not a blue, blue badge holder. Incongruous isn't it?


In my opinion P & C bays should have the pretty pictures of buggies etcetera burnt off and return them to bays for anyone "not covered by the EA 2010 bays" or moved to the farthest corners of car parks.


Basically, P & C bays should be disposed of as they serve absolutely no legitimate purpose or fulfil any legal requirement whatsoever.

Armorica

Disappointing to see so many against them (but then the words of some obviously using them irrationately unfortunately justifies that stance).

They are, however, ever so helpful for anyone with young children close together or even twins. You need the extra space to safely get more than one child into the car. (Both for the child and to avoid scratching the car next door!)

bargepole

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

47% saying they don't agree with them. Wow! I only put that option in to cater for what I assumed would be a small minority.

Of the others, average age voted for so far is 5.7 years.

The original question asked was 'At what age child should you morally stop using Parent & Child bays'.


In my view, that is the wrong question.


One of the recent topics on my Law degree course, was to discuss the differences between law and morality. The law, as defined by statutes and case law, is broadly a set of rules by which a society is governed, and is applicable to all. Morality is a subjective concept, and can differ widely between individuals, groups and cultures.


So the question should have been 'To what extent does your understanding of how law and morality are two completely different things, entitle you to post an opinion about parent & child spaces in private car parks'.

Kim_kim

Umkomaas wrote: »

Or ..... park well away from the supermarket doors, where there are almost always (other than perhaps at Christmas) plenty of free spaces in most large supermarkets to park up, with no need to consider your offspring dinging (or your doors being dinged by) any car next door.

Anyone yet been able to work out why Private Parking Companies in his country are being given licence to fleece the Great British public of significant slices of their hard earned income, in order provide them (the PPC) with the funding to support £0.75 million salaries, mansions, private jets, yachts, hi-spec motors, ponies for little daughters, and holiday homes in the Caribbean?

Go to ikea - you'll take the one space you can get.
It's not about dinging doors, it's about not being able to get a 0-9 month car seat in & out.
It's not such a problem with my grandson, he's 3 so the car seat stays in the car & you just have to be able to fasten him in.
My car isn't huge, but it isn't small, it's med-large, so it's wide.
My daughter has always said, she would love P&C spaces to be furthest from the store, so they wouldn't be attractive to people.

bazster

Don't agree with these spaces

At the Wembley Ikea everyone wants to park in the ground-level car park so it's always packed, but if you go enough floors up in the multi-storey there's always loads of space. The walk will do obese brats good too, especially if they take the stairs rather than the lifts.

mcpitman

12+

I have an 11 month old and a 5 year old.

I use P&C spaces when they are free. If they are not free I park as far away from other cars as possible and park there.

This is so it easy for me to get the kids in and out of the car without having to struggle or (potentially) damage other cars.

P&C bays are a "nice to have" not a necessity.

I never think it is a right to park in disabled bays (if P&C are full), and anyone who does is welcome to all the abuse and tickets they will get.

As for the people who just park in P&C bays because they can, or because they think it's "not illegal". You are selfish. Park in a normal bay ya cretin's!

P.S. in answer to the original question of when to stop using them, i suppose the fair answer would be when I take the child locks off the car. The !!!! of answer would be "when my parents pass on, cos i am still somebodys child until then... blah blah blah"

Kim_kim

bazster wrote: »

At the Wembley Ikea everyone wants to park in the ground-level car park so it's always packed, but if you go enough floors up in the multi-storey there's always loads of space. The walk will do obese brats good too, especially if they take the stairs rather than the lifts.

They were queuing to get into croydon ikea last week, you took any space.
As Ive said many times, put the P&C spaces at the back, parents & children can walk (or be pushed), the issue is car seats & space to get the doors fully open.
Yes there was t all this years ago, but car seats being compulsory is a recent thing.
I used a car seat in the 80s, most people I knew didn't.

TDA

bargepole wrote: »

The original question asked was 'At what age child should you morally stop using Parent & Child bays'.


In my view, that is the wrong question.


One of the recent topics on my Law degree course, was to discuss the differences between law and morality. The law, as defined by statutes and case law, is broadly a set of rules by which a society is governed, and is applicable to all. Morality is a subjective concept, and can differ widely between individuals, groups and cultures.


So the question should have been 'To what extent does your understanding of how law and morality are two completely different things, entitle you to post an opinion about parent & child spaces in private car parks'.

Don't see how that follows.

It seems pretty evident that the OP was looking for the subjective response that use of the term 'morally' would elicit.

You may wish to steer the conversation toward a discussion of law vs morality, but the OP has certainly asked the 'right' question, to achieve the purpose they asked it for.

Your posed question seems a strange one. Why should anyone's understanding of arguments on law and morality affect their entitlement to an opinion on the use of parent and child spaces?