overtaking

JustinR1979

sinizterguy wrote: »

There will never be such a reference. It's just one of those misconceptions that seems to have made itself into a real word due to overuse.

Patman must be wrong then.

sinizterguy

JustinR1979 wrote: »

Patman must be wrong then.

Must be

https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/overtaking-162-to-169

Can't find the word undertake anywhere

brat

Undertaking (overtaking on the nearside) on a motorway is likely to be considered careless, unless in congested lanes as described in R268 of the HC.

From CPS

CPS_Charging_Standards wrote:

There are decided cases that provide some guidance as to the driving that courts will regard as careless or inconsiderate and the following examples are typical of what we are likely to regard as careless driving:

• overtaking on the inside;
• driving inappropriately close to another vehicle;
• inadvertently driving through a red light;
• emerging from a side road into the path of another vehicle;
• tuning a car radio; when the driver was avoidably distracted by this action;
• using a hand-held mobile phone or other hand-held electronic equipment when the driver was avoidably distracted by that use (note that this is an offence itself under Regulation 110 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2003). If this is the only relevant aspect of the case it is more appropriate to use the specific offence;
• selecting and lighting a cigarette or similar when the driver was avoidably distracted by that use.

These examples are merely indicative of what can amount to careless driving. In addition, prosecutors should note that some of these examples also fall within the examples of dangerous driving.

bazzyb

patman99 wrote: »

Highway Code & local Traffic Unit Inspector

Rubbish.

Undertake, in this context, has no meaning whatsoever.

sinizterguy

brat wrote: »

Undertaking is likely to be considered careless, unless in congested lanes as described in R268 of the HC.

From CPS

Providing funeral services on the road is quite likely to considered careless, even in congested lanes.

prowla

"Undertaking" is a common, but not official, term for overtaking on the left/inside.

From memory, I think there are three circumstances where the rules of the road allow you to overtake on the left:

1. On a one-way street.
2. If you are in lanes and the lane to your right is queuing.
3. If directed to do so by the police.

almillar

There's a big difference between moving to the left when appropriate and the obsessive "get left as soon as...." which is espoused regularly on places like this when MLMs are mentioned.

It's hard to put into text I guess, and the braking distances on the back of the Highway Code don't really mean much when you're on the road, but the two statements you made above are BOTH true. You SHOULD be driving on the left, and moving to the left after overtaking, if there's space, and you SHOULD be looking ahead and anticipating what's happening ahead, to see if you need to stay out, and, all at the same time, you SHOULD be looking behind you to make sure you're not holding anyone up. None of this 'I'm at the speed limit' rubbish, anyone's speedo could read differently, and you're not the police.
You should not be hanging around in the 'wrong' lane whatever it may be.

The complete hypocricy would be quite funny if it didn't lead to so much bad driving!

Not hypocrisy as I hope I've proven, 'One True Rule of "keep left"' is TRUE, but it doesn't mean cutting people off after overtaking them.