Strip club scam

Burnz0

Im probably going off topic here and im not sure if my bank would care but I have confirmation today that at least two transactions that were attempted (but subsequently cancelled) occurred outside of the club's licensed hours. Clearly this would be a trading standards issue but iy may help my case with the bank?

gazman100

Burnz0 wrote: »

Im probably going off topic here and im not sure if my bank would care but I have confirmation today that at least two transactions that were attempted (but subsequently cancelled) occurred outside of the club's licensed hours. Clearly this would be a trading standards issue but iy may help my case with the bank?

Think you're clutching at straws now I'm afraid.

Hanky_Panky

gazman100 wrote: »

Think you're clutching at straws now I'm afraid.

I agree.

It looks to me like the OP has been done up like a kipper and is now looking for ways out - understandably really.

However - he is being fobbed off by the Police etc. I don't think the bank have anything to answer here: cardholder present, chip and pin and even proof on cctv. They are rightly not interested and anything about licensing hours and similar is just a red herring.

OP - if you feel you have been ripped off then the Police have to take you seriously as do Trading Standards - stop wasting your time with the bank.

Burnz0

The police were helpful but said to explore the bank route first - presumably in case it was all a genuine mistake, but once I get confirmation the bank have rejected my appeal I will speak to them again.

One small point - the club dont have cctv that corresponds with the transaction times therefore no proof that it was me. The manager gave a nonsense excuse regarding the 8 minute delay which was time enough for them to put through two other transactions funnily enough.
Im most definitely clutching at straws here and I know if I go down this route the club might be in trouble but ill probably still be out of pocket, not to mention the group of heavies after me

Hanky_Panky

Burnz0 wrote: »

The police were helpful but said to explore the bank route first - presumably in case it was all a genuine mistake, but once I get confirmation the bank have rejected my appeal I will speak to them again.

One small point - the club dont have cctv that corresponds with the transaction times therefore no proof that it was me. The manager gave a nonsense excuse regarding the 8 minute delay which was time enough for them to put through two other transactions funnily enough.
Im most definitely clutching at straws here and I know if I go down this route the club might be in trouble but ill probably still be out of pocket, not to mention the group of heavies after me

The 'proof' is you were there, had the card in your possession and can be seen using the PIN machine - all they need. Again the exact timings on the cctv footage not matching the transaction times is leading you down the wrong path, it's explainable, move on.

Stevie_Palimo

I am pretty sure you will get nowt back on this one and may be better off putting all the energy into trying to earn the amount you say has been conned from you.

Burnz0

Hanky_Panky wrote: »

The 'proof' is you were there, had the card in your possession and can be seen using the PIN machine - all they need. Again the exact timings on the cctv footage not matching the transaction times is leading you down the wrong path, it's explainable, move on.

Several transactions attempted in a period of 15 minutes yet the manager, who claims the times on the receipts can legitimately be out by 8 minutes due to the time it takes to process (not because of the cctv time being out), will only provide me with one single cctv image - how can he know what transaction the images corresponds to. If im saying I was scammed and tbe barman was in on it an 8 minute delay would give easily enough time for him to do something dodgy with my card.
How do you propose I earn the money back? Stripping?

planteria

the barman Was in on it...he has scammed you. the 'out of licensed hours' and the 'time delay' are points you can mention to the police, but just focus on the fact that you have been scammed here.
and what heavies? and how heavy are they?

meer53

Burnz0 wrote: »

Several transactions attempted in a period of 15 minutes yet the manager, who claims the times on the receipts can legitimately be out by 8 minutes due to the time it takes to process (not because of the cctv time being out), will only provide me with one single cctv image - how can he know what transaction the images corresponds to. If im saying I was scammed and tbe barman was in on it an 8 minute delay would give easily enough time for him to do something dodgy with my card.
How do you propose I earn the money back? Stripping?

The only way you will get this money back is by taking legal action against the club. Not by speaking to the Police, they will have heard your tale far too many times, nor by asking the bank to dispute it. They won't. The transactions are chip and PIN. They're guaranteed as far as the club goes.

If by some miracle you do get the Police involved, what do you expect them to do ? What evidence do you have that shows the club has done anything wrong ? I'm not judging here, just asking ?

jonesMUFCforever

OP Honestly the best thing you can do is stand outside the 'club' on a public pathway and 'advise' potential customers what happened to you.
Take a witness with you.
If you force a handful of customers from going in they will lose a lot of profit.