No normal heating in the flat

adouglasmhor

sheffield_lad wrote: »

Any electric heater will do the job as they are all 100% efficient.

OP, those old room stats sound like they may be from an old under floor heating system. Especially so if they are in Fahrenheit.

GL

I just suggested the dyson as it is fast, relatively quiet and can be aimed, not any more efficient than any other type.

pumen

bloss0m wrote: »

Thus heating many not be adequate for your flat that's why if wont go over 17c assuming you have it on full

My guess is landlord isnt bothered about doing insulation and is more interested in getting rent. I assume you live in and around London given high rent you pay.

Gas is cheaper to use for heating but not always available. Even when it is often landlords wont use it as there is a larger cost to install and or its another thing that needs checking every year for safety checks

Yes, I am renting in London. I asked the landlord to solve the issue, but they are not cooperative, i.e. telling me that nobody before had any heating issues. Of course, I did not expect any other answer :T

pumen

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Some things can help - if it's not double glazed a decent set of heavy lined curtains can make a huge difference, check draughtproofing.

It is double glazed and the windows are quite good. There are also decent curtains.

pumen

adouglasmhor wrote: »

I just suggested the dyson as it is fast, relatively quiet and can be aimed, not any more efficient than any other type.

How expensive will it be? For example, my living room is about 20 sq.m. My bedroom is about 12 sq.m. If I do not use skirting panels and just use a radiator in each which I buy on Amazon or Argos, can someone please help with how much energy they will use in order to keep at least these two rooms relatively warm?

adouglasmhor

As we don't know how quickly the flat loses heat we have no way of telling, best ask neighbours what they do to get a rough idea.

pumen

They have radiators. I believe I am the only unfortunate to have these skirting panels.

Be_Happy

Perhaps I have missed something in this thread, or am reading it wrongly, but you seem to be speaking of heating the living room and bedroom 24 hours a day. Why? You spoke of setting the living room thermostat at 27 degrees overnight??

Surely you can heat the living room during the day only and the bedroom (if necessary) overnight only.

Cate1976

OP: Having been in situations where I've lived in places that are cold, it's not nice so i can understand your frustration. The 2 places I've lived in that were cold were very different, the first was when i was in halls of residence in walsall my first year at uni, a few people might remember march 96 started off warm then got very cold in the middle. The heating in the halls was turned down 1st March, when the cold spell came, the rooms were really cold. A lot of students, me included were sleeping inside sleeping bags (mine was 3-4 season) with duvet over the top. Add to that wearing warm clothes (me in a tracksuit). If you can use layered clothing as 3-4 thin layers will be warmer than 2-3 thicker ones as heat gets trapped between each layer.

The next place that was cold was a bedsit I lived in for about 6 months in Skegness from July 99-January 2000. I did the same as when I'd been in halls clothing & bedding wise but the bedsit was colder than halls so I had an extra layer of clothing. I found a decent 1 bed flat and gave notice on the bedsit, there was an overlap of about 1-2 weeks. I signed for the flat on the saturday morning, the night was a cold one so at 10pm, I decided to stay in the flat, loaded up the car with the essentials and went to the flat. In the bedsit, i did have a fan heater which I put on my bedside cabinet.

As others have said, with you being used to living in places that have decent insulation and efficient heating systems, you've got a nasty surprise on moving into somewhere that isn't. I also suspect that the information you had on the heating on viewing would have been that it was electric, but the exact type wasn't given (for me the absence of radiators or heaters on the walls would have made me ask about exactly how the property was heated).

Suggestions for you would be:

1) Definitely try to use layers of clothing & bedding.

2) Search online to see if you can find information about how to use the heating system you have so it works as well as it can.

3) Find out what's going to cost least to run but still be warm enough for you, think it's going to be one of convection heaters, fan heaters or oil filled radiators.

4) See if there's anything you can do to improve things, maybe a curtain on the inside of lounge & bedroom doors as well as the 'front' door of your flat, draught excluders that go along the bottom of doors will make a difference.

Hope this helps.

Any_WSM: I know the Somerset Levels have already flooded, saw it on FLAG Facebook page. If you're on there, you can probably work out who I am.

pumen

Cate1976 wrote: »

OP: Having been in situations where I've lived in places that are cold, it's not nice so i can understand your frustration. The 2 places I've lived in that were cold were very different, the first was when i was in halls of residence in walsall my first year at uni, a few people might remember march 96 started off warm then got very cold in the middle. The heating in the halls was turned down 1st March, when the cold spell came, the rooms were really cold. A lot of students, me included were sleeping inside sleeping bags (mine was 3-4 season) with duvet over the top. Add to that wearing warm clothes (me in a tracksuit). If you can use layered clothing as 3-4 thin layers will be warmer than 2-3 thicker ones as heat gets trapped between each layer.

The next place that was cold was a bedsit I lived in for about 6 months in Skegness from July 99-January 2000. I did the same as when I'd been in halls clothing & bedding wise but the bedsit was colder than halls so I had an extra layer of clothing. I found a decent 1 bed flat and gave notice on the bedsit, there was an overlap of about 1-2 weeks. I signed for the flat on the saturday morning, the night was a cold one so at 10pm, I decided to stay in the flat, loaded up the car with the essentials and went to the flat. In the bedsit, i did have a fan heater which I put on my bedside cabinet.

As others have said, with you being used to living in places that have decent insulation and efficient heating systems, you've got a nasty surprise on moving into somewhere that isn't. I also suspect that the information you had on the heating on viewing would have been that it was electric, but the exact type wasn't given (for me the absence of radiators or heaters on the walls would have made me ask about exactly how the property was heated).

Suggestions for you would be:

1) Definitely try to use layers of clothing & bedding.

2) Search online to see if you can find information about how to use the heating system you have so it works as well as it can.

3) Find out what's going to cost least to run but still be warm enough for you, think it's going to be one of convection heaters, fan heaters or oil filled radiators.

4) See if there's anything you can do to improve things, maybe a curtain on the inside of lounge & bedroom doors as well as the 'front' door of your flat, draught excluders that go along the bottom of doors will make a difference.

Hope this helps.

Any_WSM: I know the Somerset Levels have already flooded, saw it on FLAG Facebook page. If you're on there, you can probably work out who I am.

Many thanks for these suggestions. There is no option to break the contract on this grounds, correct?

Cardew

I cannot believe the thread has lasted so long.


The cheapest form of heating in UK(London) is gas CK. However I suspect the percentage of Flats heated by gas is quite low


Electricity costs around 3 times as much as gas, but as all electrical heating is 100% efficient and gas is anywhere between 60% and 80% efficient. So costs are say 2.5 times more with electricity, but electricity is 'instant' and far more flexible.


You have a living room of 20m2 and a bedroom of 12m2 which is not large by any means. Without knowing the height of rooms and insulation properties it is impossible to know how much extra electrical heating with fan heaters from Argos etc will cost, but I suspect in a year the extra cost over the gas CH will be less than a weeks rent(£600)