Rochester by Election - UKIP will lower house prices

jjlandlord

Always on the case:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/st-georges-cross-house-is-workers-cooperative-2014112193013

sharnad

Cyberman60 wrote: »

Indeed !! At last people are waking up to the reality, but rather late in the day, in the same year that we incorporated Sharia law for divorce into English Law. A step too far IMO as it treats muslim women second class in divorce law.

Now why would we in a country where we all want equality methinks, create an unequal situation for muslim women ?

We didnt....

TickersPlaysPop

Thrugelmir wrote: »

I'm not interested in UKIP. I actually want to see the main parties have policies that will will actually of benefit to the UK. Not pander to the Unions nor the Bankers. Nor purely be about getting elected. Politics shouldn't be a career. It should be something you do after having a career. Where people with a wardrobe of teeshirts gained from real life experiences. Have an objective and constructive view. Not a fantasy one based on their personal dreams.

UKIP are influencing the man parties who are changing their tune, but I'm not convinced they are truly changing.

UKIP need to change their tune about the EU, because I think their current success is not solely based on their EU policy. What if they do win and the referendum vote results in the public wanting to stay in the EU? Or what if we have a referendum under Tory rule and the public still vote to stay in the EU?

People feel UKIP are offering something new, a break from the disappointment and failure of the main parties. People just want a fresh start, a break from the corrupt big business orientated politics. I'm not sure UKIP are that option, but people are willing to give them a chance.

If significant labour and lib dem MP's defect to UKIP within the next few mths they will win the general election. They also need an answer to the question of a failed referendum that would effectively render them redundant?

jjlandlord

A labour, or even lib dem, MP defecting to UKIP would be like Karl Marx setting up a hedge fund, IMHO...

Everyone has the right to change his mind, but I would lose trust in someone making such a move (I'm writing in general terms).

Yesterday he was elected by claiming he believed something, today he's claiming that he believes the opposite. What will he believe tomorrow? (Which is what matters when you choose your MP).
Isn't that exactly the 'corrupt politics' UKIP is supposed to stand against?

TrustyOven

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

People feel UKIP are offering something new, a break from the disappointment and failure of the main parties. People just want a fresh start, a break from the corrupt big business orientated politics.

What?
Surely this isn't the US, where big business ploughs millions to the presidential campaign funds.

Could you please give me specific examples?

The only example I can think of would be things like ACTA and SOPA, but those were US-specific and threatened all of the world (ie. it wasn't UK specific).

TickersPlaysPop

TrustyOven wrote: »

What?
Surely this isn't the US, where big business ploughs millions to the presidential campaign funds.

Could you please give me specific examples?

The only example I can think of would be things like ACTA and SOPA, but those were US-specific and threatened all of the world (ie. it wasn't UK specific).

Examples of politics looking after big business rather than the people that elected them....

Corporation tax and the open door for avoidance, these huge companies are profiteering out of us all and it is holding us back from reducing the deficit.

Fracking

Impotentence against the energy companies

NHS privatisation agenda

Lack of proper policing and punishment of bankers, some should go to jail, or the minister responsible for regulating them. Exchange rate fixing, commodity price fixing.

It is not just putting big business before the people. It is all the scandals, inc the farcical appointment of inappropriate head of the child abuse enquiry that was obviously to delay it comfortably beyond next election, MP's expense, MP's pay rise.... Shall I go on?!

jjlandlord

It didn't last long: "UKIP: Reckless accuses Farage of EU migrants U-turn"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30157507

They apparently are not clear about what their own party policy is...

Thrugelmir

TrustyOven wrote: »

Surely this isn't the US, where big business ploughs millions to the presidential campaign funds.

Tony Blair had 84 special advisors , Brown 78 and Cameron has 83. Many will be leading figures within industry.

Why was the UK Government lobbying so hard against the bonus cap?

TrustyOven

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Tony Blair had 84 special advisors , Brown 78 and Cameron has 83. Many will be leading figures within industry.

I guess it's better if they were advised by random people off the street.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Why was the UK Government lobbying so hard against the bonus cap?

Why should there be a bonus cap?
If a working-class woman in a company did a good job, why should I care if she gets a mega large bonus? I wasn't involved, so I shouldn't feel jealous.

Thrugelmir

TrustyOven wrote: »

I guess it's better if they were advised by random people off the street.

Fred the Shred was a regular visitor at no 11. Hardly surprising therefore his pension wasn't attacked. As Brown couldn't afford the collateral damage.