Rochester by Election - UKIP will lower house prices

ukcarper

Thrugelmir wrote: »

People want real alternatives. Negative campaigning has had it's day.

I'd agree just don't think UKIP are the party to provide them.

TickersPlaysPop

ukcarper wrote: »

I'd agree just don't think UKIP are the party to provide them.

I looked at the Green Party, and their web site and manifesto are hard work. They have a lot of alternatives, and support an alternative to the crazy state of affairs where banks create money from thin air based on lending. A debate was held recently in House of Commons that was sadly attended by a handful of MP's.

UKIP are against allowing big business to avoid corporation tax, that is a real alternative.

This was spectacularly shown when a UKIP MEP gave the president of the EU commission a dressing down and called for him to resign due to his conduct while working as a financial officer in Luxembourg.

http://www.ukip.org/ukip_deputy_leader_calls_eu_commission_president_a_hypocrite_over_tax_evasion_and_demands_his_resignation

jjlandlord

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

UKIP are against allowing big business to avoid corporation tax, that is a real alternative.

That's a joke...
UKIP define themselves as 'libertarian' and as such would be pushing for less government interference and less tax.
Private companies being able to operate freely without any interference is what they stand for. Supposedly.

Perhaps people should also realise the level of opportunism in whatever they say. They'd say whatever works for them.

TickersPlaysPop

jjlandlord wrote: »

That's a joke...
UKIP define themselves as 'libertarian' and as such would be pushing for less government interference and less tax.
Private companies being able to operate freely without any interference is what they stand for. Supposedly.

Perhaps people should also realise the level of opportunism in whatever they say. They'd say whatever works for them.

You can chose to believe whom ever you want, that's fine. I could say the same type of critical comments about every other mainstream party.

.... Did you watch the impressive performance by the depty leader of UKIP in the EU parliament? I don't need you to answer that question I think I know the answer!

TrustyOven

jjlandlord wrote: »

That's a joke...
UKIP define themselves as 'libertarian' and as such would be pushing for less government interference and less tax.

Are you sure? I saw a youtube video today that said less government interference is right wing / republican / individualism, rather than left wing / libertarianism / collectivism.

It may have been this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYrnhEmzQOw

Generali

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

I looked at the Green Party, and their web site and manifesto are hard work. They have a lot of alternatives, and support an alternative to the crazy state of affairs where banks create money from thin air based on lending. A debate was held recently in House of Commons that was sadly attended by a handful of MP's.

UKIP are against allowing big business to avoid corporation tax, that is a real alternative.

This was spectacularly shown when a UKIP MEP gave the president of the EU commission a dressing down and called for him to resign due to his conduct while working as a financial officer in Luxembourg.

http://www.ukip.org/ukip_deputy_leader_calls_eu_commission_president_a_hypocrite_over_tax_evasion_and_demands_his_resignation

Banks don't create money from thin air.

danothy

Generali wrote: »

Banks don't create money from thin air.

Not only do commercial banks not create money from thin air, they do not create money at all. They create extra liability on the money they hold by lending it out while simultaneously saying the depositors can have it back on demand. There is no new money created in this process though.

Generali

danothy wrote: »

Not only do commercial banks not create money from thin air, they do not create money at all. They create extra liability on the money they hold by lending it out while simultaneously saying the depositors can have it back on demand. There is no new money created in this process though.

Banks do increase the money supply in that way. A surprising number of people seem to believe that if you walk into a bank and get a loan that the bank presses a few keys on a computer and Hey Presto! a load of cash appears from nowhere to be lent out.

TickersPlaysPop

Generali wrote: »

Banks do increase the money supply in that way. A surprising number of people seem to believe that if you walk into a bank and get a loan that the bank presses a few keys on a computer and Hey Presto! a load of cash appears from nowhere to be lent out.

What you and Danothy are saying is Wrong....

You contradict what Mervyn King previous governor of Bank of England has said ..... Do you really think he is wrong?

Videos, and reference material all to found here in easily digestible form...

http://www.positivemoney.org/how-money-works/how-banks-create-money/

danothy

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

What you and Danothy are saying is Wrong....

You contradict what Mervyn King previous governor of Bank of England has said ..... Do you really think he is wrong?

Videos, and reference material all to found here in easily digestible form...

http://www.positivemoney.org/how-money-works/how-banks-create-money/

Literally the second paragraph of the source you cite identifies the creation process as a creation of liability.