JSA HELP (Really Need Help)

gettingtheresometime

RuthnJasper wrote: »

Why can you only do jobs supplied by the agency? Am I missing something, or is there a reason why you cannot apply for jobs directly, such as those in your local newspaper, shop windows and/or job sites like http://www.fish4.co.uk/, https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/, http://www.indeed.co.uk/ or similar?

Surely you are not bound by the agency - there are a great many jobs that don't involve telephone work. If you want to do them, of course.

You beat me to it .........why the OP thinks that the agency that gave him this job is the only source of employment really does beat me - I thought Uni was supposed to encourage independent thought.

So they either want spoon feeding or to go back on benefits -and tbh I'm not sure which it is

HelpingHugger

So jobs fall of trees now? Its going to take weeks to months to get another job will u pay me for my food? Bills? Inhalers? Am not magically going to get another job right away.

I can do other jobs but they not going to fall out the sky. I have a short term problem this job is short term that is my issue. I dont want to claim esa for ever because i have a short term condition.

theoretica

HelpingHugger wrote: »

So jobs fall of trees now? Its going to take weeks to months to get another job will u pay me for my food? Bills? Inhalers?

You do realise that is exactly what you are expecting the tax payers among us to do?

You are not getting a definitive answer here - have you taken any of the advice to ask elsewhere? At your work programme, the CAB or other advice centre?

gettingtheresometime

HelpingHugger wrote: »

So jobs fall of trees now? Its going to take weeks to months to get another job will u pay me for my food? Bills? Inhalers? Am not magically going to get another job right away.

I can do other jobs but they not going to fall out the sky. I have a short term problem this job is short term that is my issue. I dont want to claim esa for ever because i have a short term condition.

If you put as much effort into finding another job as you've done into trying to find out whether you can claim JSA,........

RuthnJasper

HelpingHugger wrote: »

So jobs fall of trees now? Its going to take weeks to months to get another job will u pay me for my food? Bills? Inhalers? Am not magically going to get another job right away.

I can do other jobs but they not going to fall out the sky. I have a short term problem this job is short term that is my issue. I dont want to claim esa for ever because i have a short term condition.

Do you know this? Have you tried? Places that are short-staffed might love to take you on at short notice. Where I work some evenings and weekends, we are so desperate for another receptionist that, if you were suitable, they'd snap you up straight away. You do have to make to effort to find them, but they are there.

I don't like having to do two jobs - but it's not forever, and I know that I'm working myself out of my situation, rather than scrabbling for what I can get. I appreciate your situation; however, I am on long-term medication myself and also have to pay all my own bills with no support.

Good luck to you.

szam_

HelpingHugger wrote: »

So jobs fall of trees now? Its going to take weeks to months to get another job will u pay me for my food? Bills? Inhalers? Am not magically going to get another job right away.

I can do other jobs but they not going to fall out the sky. I have a short term problem this job is short term that is my issue. I dont want to claim esa for ever because i have a short term condition.

Don't know why I'm even replying after your rather immature outburst, but hey.

"I dont want to claim esa for ever"

No-one has said this, however the way you have described it is called, in my words "playing the system", in order to avoid the sanction. Given your condition, you are more likely to achieve a sanction playing the system as you have written, compared to being openly honest about your situation.

If you are not going to take advice to seek this off people better placed, such as in my suggestion of the CAB, or others suggestions of various other places to get better and more accurate assistance, then here is what I would suggest:

See your GP, advise him what the kind of work you are doing is, and get it, in writing, that due to your current condition you are unable to fulfill this task upon his advice.

Ask your current workplace or agency to confirm, once showing them your GP note, that you are unable to fulfill this task, therefore you may then have your contract for this particular role terminated.

Using the same GP note, see someone at the job center, advise them that you are willing to do other work that will not aggravate the condition, but at the moment you are unable to fill roles such as the one you have just been terminated from.

If a sanction is applied, appeal it, I'm pretty sure a decision maker would use common sense in judging that it is unrealistic to expect you to carry on in a role where you GP has advised you not to carry on and you are willing to undertake roles more suitable to managing your condition better.

You are able to work, you are just restricted at the minute to the types of work you can do, therefore I don't think ESA should really be an option at all, whether it's for a week or for a year.

If you still feel aggrieved by this post and others, I suggest you leave forums alone as you will probably only get more enraged by opinions and advice that you do not want to hear.

pmlindyloo

szam_ wrote: »

Don't know why I'm even replying after your rather immature outburst, but hey.

"I dont want to claim esa for ever"

No-one has said this, however the way you have described it is called, in my words "playing the system", in order to avoid the sanction. Given your condition, you are more likely to achieve a sanction playing the system as you have written, compared to being openly honest about your situation.

If you are not going to take advice to seek this off people better placed, such as in my suggestion of the CAB, or others suggestions of various other places to get better and more accurate assistance, then here is what I would suggest:

See your GP, advise him what the kind of work you are doing is, and get it, in writing, that due to your current condition you are unable to fulfill this task upon his advice.

Ask your current workplace or agency to confirm, once showing them your GP note, that you are unable to fulfill this task, therefore you may then have your contract for this particular role terminated.

Using the same GP note, see someone at the job center, advise them that you are willing to do other work that will not aggravate the condition, but at the moment you are unable to fill roles such as the one you have just been terminated from.

If a sanction is applied, appeal it, I'm pretty sure a decision maker would use common sense in judging that it is unrealistic to expect you to carry on in a role where you GP has advised you not to carry on and you are willing to undertake roles more suitable to managing your condition better.

You are able to work, you are just restricted at the minute to the types of work you can do, therefore I don't think ESA should really be an option at all, whether it's for a week or for a year.

If you still feel aggrieved by this post and others, I suggest you leave forums alone as you will probably only get more enraged by opinions and advice that you do not want to hear.

Although I don't disagree with anything you have said (except one point which I will come to later) I do think the OP has come in for a lot of unnecessary criticism.

As always on a forum it is extremely difficult to know the extent of the OP's medical problems. Little regard seems to have been taken as to his worry about the loss of his voice. It has been assumed by a number of posters that he is skiving (spelling?) and just doesn't wish to work. I think this is unfair and unnecessarily judgemental.

I do agree that the OP has been given some good advice but much of this has been lost in some unfair (IMHO) ranting and the OP has responded to these posts and not taken aboard the good advice.

It has still not been determined what kind of contract the OP has. It may be that he doesn't have to 'resign' at all if the assignment (I use that word because I suspect that it is a contract of service)is terminated because he cannot do the job. His contract appears to be with the agency. If the agency has no work for him then he can return to JSA because he has not voluntarily resigned.

I agree that he needs some professional advice as we cannot see his contract from here.

A fit note can state that a person is unfit for work (full stop) or can work if such and such happens (so I agree about showing fit note to agency)

My only concern is about going to the Job Centre with the fit note. Unfortunately the employees there are not always aware of the finer details of claimants and might automatically assume 'fit note = not job seeking = ESA claim.

Why people are taking offence at OP claiming ESA is quite beyond me. They are going to need medical investigations so will have evidence of this. They will have a fit note. Under normal circumstances they would be entitled to SSP. It appears that the OP cannot claim this (but again this needs checking) so the benefit to claim is ESA.

People are somehow believing that to claim ESA you need to have a long term illness. This is not the case. The money is the same as JSA until they are put into a group or assessed as fit for work. They will be expected to attend work focussed interviews to help them get back to work. These will take place very soon after the claim. It is not an easy 'cop out' as some seem to be suggesting.
In fact, in many ways it is the most suitable benefit to claim from the information the OP has given us.

szam_

pmlindyloo wrote: »

Why people are taking offence at OP claiming ESA is quite beyond me. They are going to need medical investigations so will have evidence of this. They will have a fit note. Under normal circumstances they would be entitled to SSP. It appears that the OP cannot claim this (but again this needs checking) so the benefit to claim is ESA.

The only reason I suggested the above is because it is what I'd do, if I was never to go see someone who will likely have a better view to assess the situation.

What I can't understand is the need to not work at all until the recovery has been made. I have an issue with my knee which is now being investigated after I got fed up of it (had it for 10 years). There are suggestions that if physio doesn't work, I may need surgery - doesn't mean I would go on to ESA because I would be capable of doing other work until the issue was sorted out.

A colleague of mine (not British) was brought up on the notion that unless you can't even drag yourself (quite literally) in to do a job, then there is no valid excuse for not turning up and calling in sick(and she does have some quite serious medical issues from time to time) - so in fact, given that view from that cultural upbringing, us British are actually really quite lenient.

I thought my original post was fair and balanced, if there was any view that it wasn't, I'd like someone to point it out to me because it's my opinion that if you can do another job, then ESA isn't really needed.

I may have leveled some criticism in my last post based on the fact that the OP seems to be unfairly critical of some good advice. (S)he doesn't have to take it, but there is no need for the outburst of apparent rage because (s)he doesn't agree with it.

HelpingHugger

Thank you for the help you have given me, doctor said i cant work so i handed in the sick note and the work place has said to me i have to leave. Also i requested from the agency my p45, so i am no longer with them therefore not registered with the agency any more. Which means no other work will be given to me, i told job centre i can do other work they said if ur sick for more then 2 weeks regardless of illness u have to claim esa. I would rather be on jsa and look for work again but if that are the rules then that is what i must do.

Sorry for being rude i got angry because it felt like no one was helping me. Thank you for all the help you guys have given me.

Thank you and god bless you guys

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