Stop Bloody Moaning!!!

TrustyOven

racing_blue wrote: »

Bit harsh to describe Electricite de France as a nationalist extremist group, though I see where you are coming from

Ah! Well spotted! I meant EDL, I was rushing to type that before heading back to the office.

Tromking

wymondham wrote: »

At present we have weak leader(s) and wishy-washy politics that people don't trust and feel they can't rely on.....

something's brewing???

I don`t think so.
The story of this country is not one generally of revolution and unrest but by hook or by crook getting by.
We have one of the most sophisticated electorates in the world, and it is typically British that we quietly vote for UKIP (and SNP perhaps!) in order to hold our currently out of touch political elites feet to the fire rather than vote for the far right as they tend to do in lesser countries.
This country is still a beacon for the advancement of the human condition and I wouldn`t live anywhere else.

Thrugelmir

Tromking wrote: »

We have one of the most sophisticated electorates in the world, and it is typically British that we quietly vote for UKIP (and SNP perhaps!) in order to hold our currently out of touch political elites feet to the fire rather than vote for the far right as they tend to do in lesser countries.

Remind me what's been the decline in turnouts for general elections?

Politicians have never been held in lower esteem. For good reason.

Tromking

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Remind me what's been the decline in turnouts for general elections?

I`m not sure a declining turnout in GE`s make the electorate any less sophisticated.

Thrugelmir

Tromking wrote: »

I`m not sure a declining turnout in GE`s make the electorate any less sophisticated.

The declining turnout perhaps suggests a lack of interest then. UKIP is touching a nerve. By raising the topics that one else wishes to take on, face and challenge. Better than the endless sound bites and spin that spew from the main parties media machines.

Generali

By living in the UK you really have won life's lottery as someone else said.

I don't really get all the whining. Ok, people are very slightly less rich than they were right at the end of a massive boom but by almost any standard people in the UK are very rich, even the poor ones.

IIRC, even the median income for the bottom 10% before some very generous benefits is higher than the average income in some middle income countries in Asia.

James_B.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

That's a broad statement. Peoples circumstances differ. Inequality has never been wider. If there was a safety net for everyone then there would no need for foodbanks nor homeless shelters.

Inequality has never been wider?

That is possibly the most ridiculous thing ever posted. Inequality has never been less. The bottom decile have cars, mobile phones, warm homes, inside toilets, and microwave ovens. They live in luxury unimaginable to pretty much everyone even thirty years ago, and still it seems they do not have enough.

globalds

We are not moaning.

We just have very high expectations.

No one moaned during the Olympics... a fortnight in 40 years is more than enough ..Without all our constant chastising this nation would not be the great place it is now.

cepheus

[the UK]

has evolved an economic model that is more hospitable to business than much of Europe and kindlier to the poor than America. It cuts public spending year on year without any civil disorder to speak of. Crime is falling. Unemployment is at 6 per cent. The politicians are small-time but basically honourable. The capital city is a miracle of the modern world.

What a bunch of elitist, pretentious, Southern claptrap. So the politicians are friends of elite businessmen, some Londoners, but mostly themselves. The Daily Mail reading public have been brainwashed by the media. [URL="VIDEO: Police clear #OccupyDemocracy protesters from Parliament Square"] They just don't report the disorder.[/URL]

padington

That might be the case but the UK is also a model that to be fair is really hospitable to people with substance problems, mental health problems and genuine refugee's.

Whilst I'm no fan of Ian Duncan smith and Glenda Jackson is far more my type of girl, as things stand, this country is still pretty damn generous towards the most vulnerable of its own and often other countries people.

In relation to America we are light years ahead when is comes to protecting the most vulnerable.