Stop Bloody Moaning!!!

Graham_Devon

TrustyOven wrote: »

I don't get this. Why do you have to use payday loans to eat?

Why do some of us (who are not priveledged, or came from very poor backgrounds) manage to eat without payday loans?

Why do some of us not manage to live on our wages/salary and need payday loans and foodbanks and cannot afford to buy shoes for their kids?

Is this a case of Lifestyle Inflation, fault of the government, fault of the education system for not teaching economics / basic finances, or what?

I thought the national average income was about £25k. Isn't that enough to not have to use payday loans?

If someone earns less than that, and are not happy about it, shouldn't they search for a better job / career / opportunity rather than moaning and turning to nationalist (extremist?) groups like UKIP / BNP / EDF and the likes?

I thought that's the way things work. Maybe I lead a sheltered life. Maybe someone could enlighten me.

I've never mentioned payday loans....

Graham_Devon

danothy wrote: »

You do sicken me. You sicken me to such a degree that I am done listening to your toxic slander and rhetoric.

Thank goodness for that.

Toodlepip :wave:

wymondham

Remember the past - Hitler only came to power as there wasn't really any viable alternative that people thought would deal with the problems at the time....


People look for a strong leader, and tend to ignore the bits they find less palatable!


At present we have weak leader(s) and wishy-washy politics that people don't trust and feel they can't rely on.....


something's brewing???

Thrugelmir

wymondham wrote: »

Remember the past - Hitler only came to power as there wasn't really any viable alternative that people thought would deal with the problems at the time....

There's a simplification of a complex picture. The German populace felt oppressed by the crippling war reparations imposed after WW1. Both France and Belgium invaded the Ruhr in 1923 in an attempt to get them paid. German workers went on strike. The French sent in their own workers. To pay the striking German workers the printing presses rolled. Hyper inflation was born.

The seeds were sown for the up and coming generation.

Wheezy_2

Thrugelmir wrote: »

There's a simplification of a complex picture. The German populace felt oppressed by the crippling war reparations imposed after WW1. Both France and Belgium invaded the Ruhr in 1923 in an attempt to get them paid. German workers went on strike. The French sent in their own workers. To pay the striking German workers the printing presses rolled. Hyper inflation was born.

The seeds were sown for the up and coming generation.

Hyper inflation was born well before the Ruhr occupation. The French response to occupy Germany's industrial heartland was because war reparations defined in Deutsch Marks were increasingly becoming worthless, so France opted to source the goods (iron ore, coal..) instead.

Bantex_2

Generali wrote: »

British people have been negative about Britain for as long as I can remember (lets say since 1976). Perhaps it's time to look to the positives a bit more as Britain has a huge amount going for it.

If you compare the standard of living in Britain with almost any other country in the world then it's extremely high. Not the highest but right up there.

Says a man who packed his bags and left.

racing_blue

TrustyOven wrote: »

If someone earns less than that, and are not happy about it, shouldn't they search for a better job / career / opportunity rather than moaning and turning to nationalist (extremist?) groups like UKIP / BNP / EDF and the likes?

Bit harsh to describe Electricite de France as a nationalist extremist group, though I see where you are coming from

Thrugelmir

Bantex wrote: »

Says a man who packed his bags and left.

To a country into which immigration is closely screened.

Bantex_2

Thrugelmir wrote: »

To a country into which immigration is closely screened.

They wouldn't have me.

Thrugelmir

chewmylegoff wrote: »

That has happened throughout the ages, older people always hark back to how much better things were when they were younger; personally I prefer not being bound by Victorian values, culture and attitudes, for instance. Some people call it progress, other people call it the country going to the dogs...

Who mentioned Victorian?

My Grandmother was Victorian. One of 14 kids. Dad was a docker in Limehouse who used to come home drunk and beat her mother up. Lived in a 2 room rented apartment. One day her mother said pack your bags we're leaving. Never saw her Dad again. Lost 4 brothers in WW1, two in one day in the Battle of the Somme. In her lifetime she experienced a multitude of change. She died in 1997 at two months shy of 100th. Still looked after herself until the day she died. Walked to the shops every day sun, rain or snow.

Had a wonderful perspective on life that you'll never have. Nor me for that matter.

Anyway I digress. Your comment isn't what I'm referring to. As you can't miss something you've never known.