RHI & MCS certification

captainhindsight_2

Robwiz wrote: »

That is totally untrue. The Domestic RHI had been announced and MCS approved stoves were being promoted by MCS registered installers at least in spring 2013 with the proviso that they would be eligible for RHI when the details of payments were published and the scheme opened.

I know because I was looking at installing a biomass boiler at the time and can produce quotations as evidence. This time last year it was possible to claim the RHPP until March 2014, on the understanding that the RHPP would then be deducted from RHI payments.

The fact is 100s of households have had renewable technologies installed by non mcs installers. These are the cases where things have gone wrong.

captainhindsight_2

RickMoney wrote: »

ok, going back to the original installation questions - with regards to the flue, I have an existing chimney that I was going to put a flexible flue liner down myself. I got told that if I did this then the MCS installer wouldn't be able to sign the boiler off for MCS?

What happens if they are installing in a chimney that already has a liner in - I thought they would just do a smoke pellet test to check for leaks etc and that would be sufficient?

I almost think of it as a way to force me to get the flex flue from them...

It's the same as asking to a gas engineer can I supply and fit the flue on my gas boiler. The answer is no.

I don't know why you would want to make things difficult, the installer will be getting much greater discounts than you could get the flue for anyway.

I think the installer would just laugh if you had bought some cheap liner off eBay and asked them to connect to it.

If there is something wrong with the flue you fitted, and something went wrong with the boiler the first person you would blame would be the installer not your self for fitting a dodgy flue.

The boiler won't perform correctly without a properly installed and designed flue.

RickMoney

I'm not trying to make things difficult, I have a project that is as always, budget sensitive and I have money owed to me from a building supplier that I will unlikely see as cash, so I'm taking goods where possible.

If you're saying an MCS will never sign off a pre installed flue then I'll have to review the installers as one was quoting £500-600 material only for flexible flue, not more than 9 metres needed, seems excessive.

Silent_Dancer

RickMoney wrote: »

I'll speak with the installer and see if they will just install materials supplied by me then.

The other problem then is that I do plan to have a normal woodburning stove in another room in the future which requires a twin wall flue (No chimney in that room). With the renovations, we plan to install it through the roof while it's a mess. The whole works will need to be signed off by building control at the end so provided he is happy with the works then a stove installer in the future should be content with it when they install the stove??

If the flue is properly labelled as per the building regs (which it will be as you are going to get it signed off) then this shouldn't be a problem. The issue is just with if you want to claim RHI as the whole installation needs to be by an MCS installer.