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Summer tyres for winter?

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  • The Kumhos Solus Vier KH21 havn't seemed to get great reviews according to tyrereviews.co.uk, but for the price I can't complain.

    Because I only do around 8k miles/year I don't particularly mind if a brand of tyre wears out faster than another, if it provides superior grip. How were the Kumhos in the dry and damp? Were you still able to drive in a spirited manner with the E39 528i?



    There's five reviews, and they score well for grip and feedback.


    I did upwards of 20K on KH21s on the 5 Series and my V40 did 12K on them before I sold them (half worn). My MIL had a set on her Polo which she also used throughout the winter and over 10K miles. I had no complaints.


    Specifically, my driving style is 'progressive', and I do a lot of miles in all weathers all over the UK and Europe. I'm not Lewis Hamilton, but point-to-point I will tend to be quicker than average, and I can't say I ever felt I needed to ditch the AWs and fit PirelliYearContiStoneLin SuperGripSportTractionContact5000s.
  • Iceweasel
    Iceweasel Posts: 4,882 Forumite
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    Hello, BTW I have the E92 M, same as the E90 but coupe.
    You are correct, the M can be driven in snow, probably light snow even with the low profile sport tyres.

    With proper winter tyres, it can be driven but like I said I rather not spend another £1000 for a set of 4 winter tyres.

    Regarding that video, and other videos of M cars in snow, you do need driver skill to make sure you don't crash into a lamp post and I'd rather not risk it. If I'm honest I do not have the proper driving skills required to pull off such stunts safely.

    I am aware of the code number of your M3 - I meant the e90 family of which the M3 is the ultimate driving machine. :o

    And it's best to be honest - especially on MSE.

    I learn't those skills back in the 70s as a moderately successful rally driver - but my reactions are not as lighting fast as are needed for 'stunts' these days.

    But I still have lots of fun on the hairpin bends on Alpine Passes.
  • JustinR1979
    JustinR1979 Posts: 1,828 Forumite
    Get a cheap set of wheels, fit winter tyres. Sell when finished with them.
    As said (more than once) your summer tyres aren't being worn, so outlay isn't as bad as first appears.
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    But the problem with this method is that you'll end up spending £40 each time to get the tyres swapped from summer to winter tyres and vice versa. That's already £80/year extra plus you may want to rotate them etc. Unless you have two sets of alloys, which again you have to spend for the extra set.
    Depends where you go. My local only charges me a tenner to swap the wheels over, if I had to pay £40+ then I'd get myself a torque wrench and change them myself.
  • force_ten
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    neilmcl wrote: »
    Depends where you go. My local only charges me a tenner to swap the wheels over, if I had to pay £40+ then I'd get myself a torque wrench and change them myself.

    the price quoted is for one set of wheels and two sets of tyres, so the are talking about fit and balance four covers and fit to car

    I do my own trolley jack wheel brace and a torque wrench gives me a chance to give the arches a good clean and check the discs and calipers
  • People make me laugh when they say I have driven on summer tyres all my life and no one needs winter tyres. What they don't say is that they never drive in snow and they live where there no hills. Winter tyres are awesome even in low temps. It should be law that all vehicles should change there summer tyres over to winter when the cold weather starts:)
  • Richard53
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    I put a set of Goodyear Ultragrip 8 on my Mondeo this time last year. We didn't have much snow and ice, so I can't comment on that, but grip in the wet was excellent. I meant to take them off and put summer tyres on this Spring, but never got round to it. The Goodyears are no noisier than the Primacy I took off, wear seems to be about average, and there is no noticeable difference in handling. They did about 2k miles to Switzerland and back, fully loaded at motorway speeds with no drama. I'm pleased with them, and I'll probably run them through winter now, and think about some summer tyres next year.


    I'm lucky in that my local fitter has offered to swap them over for nothing, and store the unused tyres, provided I buy the new set from him. As his prices are pretty keen, this is a no-brainer. Not sure if there would be extra charges for balancing etc, but not a big deal for the convenience.
    If someone is nice to you but rude to the waiter, they are not a nice person.
  • Loganfire wrote: »
    It should be law that all vehicles should change there summer tyres over to winter when the cold weather starts:)

    Trouble with this is that if there were any real benefits of doing this then it would be law, surely?

    Or at least insurers would insist on it.
  • Inner_Zone
    Inner_Zone Posts: 2,856 Forumite
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    Trouble with this is that if there were any real benefits of doing this then it would be law, surely?

    Or at least insurers would insist on it.

    But we don't live in a nanny state, yet. So people think for themselves most of the time.

    Winter tyres are not all about snow, the grip in wet weather is vastly improved and we get a lot of rain, abet all year round.
  • Inner_Zone wrote: »
    But we don't live in a nanny state, yet. So people think for themselves most of the time.

    Winter tyres are not all about snow, the grip in wet weather is vastly improved and we get a lot of rain, abet all year round.

    What about folk who live in cities where snow rarely falls or stays on the roads long, where people don't have garages to store spare wheels /tyres?

    Should they be forced to use winter tyres despite the fact they rarely, if ever, need them and have managed just fine without so far?
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