Summer tyres for winter?

DoctorFoster

mjoneseyjones wrote: »

I've read it back and it's pretty clear, although perhaps I should have said 'might as well' instead of 'better off' - our weather is too moderate to require anything like winter tyres, high performance tyres, uprated brakes or any of the other nonsense suggested by the eager to appear knowledgeable crowd on here.

Why go for all that !!!!!!!! when string back driving gloves and a flat cap do you?

force_ten

mjoneseyjones wrote: »

Pretty pointless when their performance will be nothing like that when it's not wet or when it's above 7 degrees.

Our weather is too moderate to make winter tyres a necessity for anything other than a minority of road users. You'd be better off advising people to splash out on high performance all weather tyres, or uprated brakes.

If I could chose one set of tyres to run year round I would choose winter tyres because they are by far the safest option

if i could not have winter tyres then i would go for a four season tyre, but i would not go back to running so called summer tyres year round

winter tyres are much safer in summer than summer tyres are in winter

and to say stopping 30 metres shorter is pretty pointless is priceless

JustinR1979

mjoneseyjones wrote: »

I've read it back and it's pretty clear, although perhaps I should have said 'might as well' instead of 'better off' - our weather is too moderate to require anything like winter tyres, high performance tyres, uprated brakes or any of the other nonsense suggested by the eager to appear knowledgeable crowd on here.

Maybe it's because I've been up since 3, but are you saying people wouldn't benefit from better grip and braking?
From a driver skill point of view maybe not, from a driver lack of skill point of view I would say they would - you need a margin for error.
Without wanting to sound like Darkshatter's brother, the M5 I had never ran out of grip or brakes.
For my skill, I never pushed it far enough to run out of brakes or grip. I always had that little extra in reserve.
Is nice to have that comfort zone.
Average driver in average car may get closer to or on the limit of grip or braking more easily and there's nothing in reserve 'just in case'

JustinR1979

DoctorFoster wrote: »

Justin drives a transit GT. He's better than average.

Transits are fwd now, so I drive a Volvo as rwd is for men

DoctorFoster

force_ten wrote: »

If I could chose one set of tyres to run year round I would choose winter tyres because they are by far the safest option

if i could not have winter tyres then i would go for a four season tyre, but i would not go back to running so called summer tyres year round

winter tyres are much safer in summer than summer tyres are in winter

and to say stopping 30 metres shorter is pretty pointless is priceless

Good choice, I love their pizzas.

force_ten

DoctorFoster wrote: »

Good choice, I love their pizzas.

I tried one of the four season pizzas but found it a bit rubbery :rotfl:

JustinR1979

force_ten wrote: »

I tried one of the four season pizzas but found it a bit rubbery :rotfl:

Was it crowded?
Did you eat it all in one day?

DoctorFoster

force_ten wrote: »

I tried one of the four season pizzas but found it a bit rubbery :rotfl:

I always thought Chinese chicken was rubbely

Gloomendoom

Iceweasel wrote: »

There will always be tyres that don't fit the general trend - I haven't seen a knobbly with the snowflake mark - but I believe such a thing exists - but they must be a rarity - at the moment at least.

They are. I only know they exist because I went specifically looking for them. The Dunlop MT Max Traction was the knobbliest I found but there are also a handful of slightly less knobbly AT tyres around. The General Grabber AT2, for example.

mjoneseyjones

JustinR1979 wrote: »

Maybe it's because I've been up since 3, but are you saying people wouldn't benefit from better grip and braking?
From a driver skill point of view maybe not, from a driver lack of skill point of view I would say they would - you need a margin for error.
Without wanting to sound like Darkshatter's brother, the M5 I had never ran out of grip or brakes.
For my skill, I never pushed it far enough to run out of brakes or grip. I always had that little extra in reserve.
Is nice to have that comfort zone.
Average driver in average car may get closer to or on the limit of grip or braking more easily and there's nothing in reserve 'just in case'

This is the third time you've failed to understand a simple post in this thread.

Are more grip and braking power better? Yes, of course.

Does the average motorist need them? Of course not. We'd all be crashing and burning at every corner ever day otherwise. As much as you are trying to convince yourself otherwise, motoring is a pretty straightforward activity, managed perfectly well on standard tyres/brakes /everything.