help with social worker rights for 16 year old

moomoomama27

Indie_Kid wrote: »

Which has never been my experience. I had to beg for support which never happened. I then tried to get help last year over a few issues. They refused to listen to me and decided that all the professionals involved in my care are liars.:mad: I refused to do what they said because it was something I could not deal with and was just labeled as awkward.

That's a shame, can you not go to any other agencies for support, obviosuly I don't know what suport you need and what for, but I would hate to think someone isn't coping well because some agencies can't support properly.

SunReader

Wow. Just wow. That's the biggest load of carp I've read in a long time.

ok tell that to my barrister and lawyer, perhaps your legal knowledge around MCA 2005 MHA 1983 and ECHR 5-7 is better than theirs.

Social workers are under increased scrutiny on a weekly basis and certainly neither have any extra powers nor beyond the law.

Except any legal challenges are held in secret behind closed doors by the Court of Protection, anything likely to make legal precedent by case law is often settled out of court complete with gagging order. Out of 87,000 social workers in the Uk, try googling for a social worker that actually gets prosecuted - despite flouting UK and EU law on a daily basis.

Rotheram.

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Suppose it depends on what he said when he was being treated as an emergency. I've heard some very disturbing things from people in emergency psychiatric care, sometimes because they're suffering delusions, sometimes they're trying for sympathy to deflect away from the need for treatment, sometimes just to be cruel to the people that 'allowed' them to be taken and sometimes because it's the truth and the first time they've been away from the situation and feel safe enough to disclose it.

Moreover, some people with MH problems have their treatment and potential recovery harmed by their families - some don't 'believe' in medication or in the existence of psychiatric illness, for example, or think it will all be sorted if it's hidden away.

The SWs allocated to your son have no way of knowing which of these is the case, especially when there have been previous allegations made against you.

Telling them to eff off will not be putting their minds at rest.

buddythedog

Person_one wrote: »

If I were you, I would grab all support offered with both hands. Mental health services are in crisis at the moment, many people are desperate for more help and getting hardly any.

Social workers are not the cartoon baddies some make them out to be. Accept their help, your son may benefit greatly.

Rubbish ....

buddythedog

Person_one wrote: »

Why do you want to know that though? What's stopping you and your son accepting help offered? What's worrying you?

They not doing anything to help my son .... The focus on past allegations that was cleared by them over two years ago ....This is making my son go down hill ...and no help as of yet as been on him ....they've not even spoken to the school to explainh he needs extra support .....but instead he's getting detension for not keeping up with his work ....

Savvy_Sue

If they are planning to come on Monday with the CAMHS worker, why not talk to the CAMHS worker first, explain that this doesn't seem to be helping your son and ask if they think SS can be of any help, but let them come, and be polite ...

Edwardia

So as his mother, have you visited the school and asked for a meeting with his teacher and head teacher, explained the situation with his mental health and asked for him to have a statement of educational needs ? If not why not ? Your son shouldn't be getting detentions for not doing work if he hasn't been able to catch up or finds it too difficult. That obviously puts him under stress.

If you were co-operative with the social worker s/he could probably help you with that ie drafting a letter, making calls or attending a meeting with you.

The most important person here is your son, not you. As his mother you should put his health and welfare first. He might be difficult with them, well not hard to see where he gets that from if you are swearing at social workers. I don't suppose they really want to deal with you either, frankly.

They have probably been told to go over old cases where allegations have been made if the child involved is still being supported by AN agency, to cover their own bums.

You being defensive abt the allegation doesn't make them say OK we'll leave it there.

Push for what he wants and what you want ie CAHMS. Be honest abt the school situation. Going off on one just makes you look like a carp mother and makes them more suspicious.

kezzygirl

SunReader wrote: »

Wow. Just wow. That's the biggest load of carp I've read in a long time.

ok tell that to my barrister and lawyer, perhaps your legal knowledge around MCA 2005 MHA 1983 and ECHR 5-7 is better than theirs.

Social workers are under increased scrutiny on a weekly basis and certainly neither have any extra powers nor beyond the law.

Except any legal challenges are held in secret behind closed doors by the Court of Protection, anything likely to make legal precedent by case law is often settled out of court complete with gagging order. Out of 87,000 social workers in the Uk, try googling for a social worker that actually gets prosecuted - despite flouting UK and EU law on a daily basis.

Rotheram.

lol bit outdated...think u will find the mha 1983 was amended and updated in 2007...hence the mha 2007.