help with social worker rights for 16 year old

buddythedog

My 16 year old child has recently recovered from a mental episode. He has been back home for several weeks now, and released from hospital stay.

We have had cams nurse visit us on several occasions.

Social services called him Friday afternoon to arrange a visit on Monday next week. He told them on the phone that he didn't need their help, but they insisted they wanted to see him. He also told them last week he did not want to meet with them.

what are my rights as a parent as I do not really think they are needed in this situation.

Thanks for any advice.

SunReader

Careful here, social services are the new gods, immune to legal prosecution with powers well above the police and organised criminals.

What next? your reluctance to co-operate results in a safeguarding alerts -you are clearly a bad parent in their view.

Next, take the kid into care -another box ticked removing any repercussions to the social worker who signed it off...and who gives a toss if the kid gets shafted up the !!!! daily and riuns his life -look at the amount of SS that are 'unavailable' for comment following the Runcorn business.

A couple of things to remember: most social workers are sub burger flipping national minumum wage calibre, but many have big mortgages so they will lie and deceive ignoring all legal responsibilities.

your rights? fark all. Bend over, take it up the !!!! and protect your son who is clearly in a vulnerable position and do not let social services get their teeth in, otherwise you will never remove the scum form your life. Been there, done it.

Give them boxes to tick, show continued improvement and thank them for their 'help' . They are simple minded folk and and really couldn't give a toss either way - you need to remove any legal responsibility form them and show that problems are being taken into account and dealt with. Think checklists and boxes to tick.

Good call asking for advice, learn from other's mistakes and get a game plan from day 1. They will have no problems taking your son and ruining his life.

If you can't agree, get proper lega advice and if neccessary involve court of protection -this is one court they don't want to f+ck with.

jenhug

I have a child with mental health needs. Our social worker has been invaluable with supporting us, providing information about services and kicking certain departments up the rear end to ensure my child doesn't slip through the cracks within the system, that the relevant departments are communicating with each other to bring about the best possible outcome for my child. I see no harm in letting them in to be honest.

SunReader

ok glad you have had good service, try dealing with a team of them when you don't agree...

jenhug

Perhaps the situation may be different for us as our social worker is part of the disabled childrens team and we self referred rather than them coming to us because of other issues (abuse, etc).

Guest101

I suggest you record the SWers visit with a camera, so that all evidenced.

Chances are they are there to be supportive, if not...

Guest101

SunReader wrote: »

Careful here, social services are the new gods, immune to legal prosecution with powers well above the police and organised criminals.

What next? your reluctance to co-operate results in a safeguarding alerts -you are clearly a bad parent in their view.

Next, take the kid into care -another box ticked removing any repercussions to the social worker who signed it off...and who gives a toss if the kid gets shafted up the !!!! daily and riuns his life -look at the amount of SS that are 'unavailable' for comment following the Runcorn business.

A couple of things to remember: most social workers are sub burger flipping national minumum wage calibre, but many have big mortgages so they will lie and deceive ignoring all legal responsibilities.

your rights? fark all. Bend over, take it up the !!!! and protect your son who is clearly in a vulnerable position and do not let social services get their teeth in, otherwise you will never remove the scum form your life. Been there, done it.

Give them boxes to tick, show continued improvement and thank them for their 'help' . They are simple minded folk and and really couldn't give a toss either way - you need to remove any legal responsibility form them and show that problems are being taken into account and dealt with. Think checklists and boxes to tick.

Good call asking for advice, learn from other's mistakes and get a game plan from day 1. They will have no problems taking your son and ruining his life.

If you can't agree, get proper lega advice and if neccessary involve court of protection -this is one court they don't want to f+ck with.

Social workers are under increased scrutiny on a weekly basis and certainly neither have any extra powers nor beyond the law.

In fact they have zero right of removal except in extreme dire and imminently dangerous circumstances, which if they get wrong is the end of their career and an expensive bill to the council after they lose in court.

This is why 99% of removals are court ordered, which is therefore backed up by police.

FBaby

Unfortunately, social services are involved, and that's because something would have trigger their involvement. You are much better accepting this and working with them, if anything to show them that the triggers are not what they thought or there anymore so they can tick the box that they don't have to be there any longer.

What you think of their involvement is unlikely to provide them with the information that they can tick the box all is ok and they can withdraw their intervention. On the opposite, it is highly likely to trigger even more scrutiny and concerns.

In the end,if they are there for child welfare issue, whether you want them to be involved or not is not your decision any longer. Why don't you contact them and talk things through them? Whatever you do, don't go defensive or agressive about their involvement, as that would be the best way to ensure you never get rid of them.

Person_one

If I were you, I would grab all support offered with both hands. Mental health services are in crisis at the moment, many people are desperate for more help and getting hardly any.

Social workers are not the cartoon baddies some make them out to be. Accept their help, your son may benefit greatly.

Mankysteve

Guest101 wrote: »

Social workers are under increased scrutiny on a weekly basis and certainly neither have any extra powers nor beyond the law.

In fact they have zero right of removal except in extreme dire and imminently dangerous circumstances, which if they get wrong is the end of their career and an expensive bill to the council after they lose in court.

This is why 99% of removals are court ordered, which is therefore backed up by police.

Some people read far too many daily mail articles.

First sign of someone slipping back into there issues is refusing the help offered. This is why there so insistent.

buddythedog

Guest101 wrote: »

Social workers are under increased scrutiny on a weekly basis and certainly neither have any extra powers nor beyond the law.

In fact they have zero right of removal except in extreme dire and imminently dangerous circumstances, which if they get wrong is the end of their career and an expensive bill to the council after they lose in court.

This is why 99% of removals are court ordered, which is therefore backed up by police.

But wot I really want to know is ...... at the age of 16 .. do social worker still have the right to nose into your business.... IIf the 16 year don't want any help.... can they in force it on a 16 year old family .....?