help with social worker rights for 16 year old

ohreally

Guest101 wrote: »

In fact they have zero right of removal except in extreme dire and imminently dangerous circumstance

So they do have right of removal!

Who defines dire/ dangerous?

theoretica

buddythedog wrote: »

But wot I really want to know is ...... at the age of 16 .. do social worker still have the right to nose into your business.... IIf the 16 year don't want any help.... can they in force it on a 16 year old family .....?

The social workers aren't only concerned with his safety and business. Depending on the type of episode they may be as concerned for the impact on the rest of society. 16 or 61 they want to convince themselves that you won't end up in the newspapers if left without their help. Be polite, get him to be polite or as polite as any 16 year old being poked and prodded unnecessarily, explain you prefer the help of the CAMS nurses. Try to get them to do most of the talking explaining what practical and concrete help they can offer.

pmlindyloo

buddythedog wrote: »

But wot I really want to know is ...... at the age of 16 .. do social worker still have the right to nose into your business.... IIf the 16 year don't want any help.... can they in force it on a 16 year old family .....?

The law is not straightforward as regards to young people and the age they have certain 'rights'. Just have a read of this to see what I mean!

http://www.rbkc.gov.uk/pdf/FPI%20is%20it%20legal%20Feb_08.pdf

Reading through it the relevant bit for you, I think, is that social workers can get a care order for anyone under the age of 17 years.

Not that this is what they are looking to do.

Person_one

buddythedog wrote: »

But wot I really want to know is ...... at the age of 16 .. do social worker still have the right to nose into your business.... IIf the 16 year don't want any help.... can they in force it on a 16 year old family .....?

Why do you want to know that though? What's stopping you and your son accepting help offered? What's worrying you?

indsty

I understand that some people have had bad experiences with social work involvement. But many others have been helped enormously through their input and advice about available help and opportunities. Is there any harm in welcoming them with an open mind at this first meeting to find out what assistance they might have? Your 16 yr old has now recovered to some extent but that does not mean that professional involvement cannot help him even further.

kelpie35

I think you should be grateful for any type of social work involvement.

There are hundreds of people who are desperate for their help and are being refused due to shortage of workers and funding.

Indie_Kid

kelpie35 wrote: »

I think you should be grateful for any type of social work involvement.

There are hundreds of people who are desperate for their help and are being refused due to shortage of workers and funding.

How rude From experience, their "help" is anything but help.

buddythedog

Indie_Kid wrote: »

How rude From experience, their "help" is anything but help.

Not rude at all ...... They r not offering any help that we need ....tThey r going on a allegation that was made a couple of years ago ...that has already been followed up ..and closed ....We now getting all the support that is gonna help him ....and no really do need this !!!! from them ....had seen then last week thinking they were going to give us eextra support ....but turns out they r looking into the past allegation. .....so I'm not rude .....iits them that rude by not listening to my son or i

FBaby

Even better reason to work with them. The more defensive you become, the more they will assume you are trying to hide something even if you are not. So go along, give them the information they want so they can be reassured the matter can remain closed.

moomoomama27

I'm more concerned that you are not wanting their help.

When my eldest had problems I self referred, it was help that has put my DD back on a copeable path.

They don't necassarily stay with you, it could be that they can refer you to other agencies that can put support in place.

SS get alot of negative press, but their job is to help families and children in need of support.