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Economists Urge Scotland to Vote No......
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Fear won the day just as it will in the EU referendum. Anyone would think all those prosperous independent nations were hell holes withering on the vine.
Bovine group think takes over.
In time localism and independence will once again become valued concepts, for the time being the sheeple aren't ready.
do you actually live in Scotland and so were willing to live with a reduced standard of living, simply to sate your wish for the Scottish people to be separate from the English; or is it 'do as I say and not as I do'?0 -
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hugoshavez wrote: »If you think that's rude then you haven't been reading the other posts on this debate :eek:
That conclusion does not follow from the premise you present to support it. It implies that relativism overrides absolutes - i.e. that because other things may be said to be ruder, that this is therefore not rude - and that by stating that this is rude to Scottish people I must therefore not have been exposed to the greater rudeness. Neither of these things are true.If you think of it as 'us' verses 'them', then it's probably your side that are the villains.0 -
That conclusion does not follow from the premise you present to support it. It implies that relativism overrides absolutes - i.e. that because other things may be said to be ruder, that this is therefore not rude - and that by stating that this is rude to Scottish people I must therefore not have been exposed to the greater rudeness. Neither of these things are true.
As I'm sure you know, the point was a rhetorical one to highlight the overall tenor here and on DT, rather than an attempt to negate your judgement on an individual post.0 -
My goodness the Nats are evolving into something horrid over on WOS and their Facebook page now. Their current narrative is that they hope the poor old people all die soon because they voted No. That the English are all to blame and should be barred from voting 'next time' and that all other No voters are brainwashed cowardly sheep who have robbed the children of Scotland of their future.
Robbed the dolites of Scotland of more dole more like.
They are detestable and I thoroughly detest them.0 -
That conclusion does not follow from the premise you present to support it. It implies that relativism overrides absolutes - i.e. that because other things may be said to be ruder, that this is therefore not rude - and that by stating that this is rude to Scottish people I must therefore not have been exposed to the greater rudeness. Neither of these things are true.hugoshavez wrote: »As I'm sure you know, the point was a rhetorical one to highlight the overall tenor here and on DT, rather than an attempt to negate your judgement on an individual post.
If you want there's more enlightened and intellectually challenging thought over on the sqapo site. Enjoy!There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker0 -
Final YouGov poll on 18th by age bracket
16-24 was 51%-49% NO
25-39 was 55%-45% YES
40-59 was 53%-47% NO
60-64 was 55%-45% NO
65+....was 66%-34% NO“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Final YouGov poll on 18th by age bracket
16-24 was 51%-49% NO
25-39 was 55%-45% YES
40-59 was 53%-47% NO
60-64 was 55%-45% NO
65+....was 66%-34% NO
Hmm, is this selective bracketing?
Seems to have differed from your previous graph
This shows
16-17 - Yes
25-34 Yes
35-44 Yes
45-54 Yes
18-24 No
55-64 No
65+ No
shows how important the Grey vote was:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Hmm, is this selective bracketing?
Seems to have differed from your previous graph
This shows
16-17 - Yes
25-34 Yes
35-44 Yes
45-54 Yes
18-24 No
55-64 No
65+ No
shows how important the Grey vote was
Different sources not selection of age groups. Different polls will have different outcomes because of different sampling errors.0 -
Different sources not selection of age groups. Different polls will have different outcomes because of different sampling errors.
Indeed.
The ashcroft poll posted earlier had a sample size of just 14 respondents for the 16/17 age brackets.
Too small to be statistically significant.
The Yougov poll was 3000 respondents in total, and covered both day of voting and post voting responses.
Final total was within 1% of actual vote.
Almost certainly as accurate as we'll be able to get.
And shows No won in 4/5 age brackets.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0
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